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I see some discussion going on in the status (somehow seems to be the wrong tool for discussion) so I thought I'd make it a thread.

Gotta say that I was pretty happy with Ubuntu on my Dell netbook and also on my old Thinkpad T60 - up until 12.04 and then things got a little dodgy. Right from the update things were a little dodgy. I cleaned everything and did a fresh install and still...

The USB stalls from time to time now (it did that briefly at the beginning of 11 something as well but got better) and the whole thing locks up occasionally - UI deadlocks mostly. Very not happy - but looking at the bugs online the developers seem to be dismissing people with "hey, this isn't enough info, enter a better bug." and I can understand that because no-one wants to debug and fix weird stuff that effects the whole system. But on the other hand, it seems to be a lot of people are having problems and if this was a money maker like Windows you bet there would be some resources set to fixing the problem. If canonical is aiming for the enterprise desktop as a way to push its services then the least it should be doing is making sure it runs on the enterprise desktop (and on anyone else's desktop, laptop and tablet). I really do prefer it over Android and iOS (not as much as AmigaOS which still feels nice and snappy on older hardware) and even though it seems that you can't buy anything without Windows already installed these days, second hand stuff with broken Windows on it is still a nice way to get cheap hardware and revive it - so long as Ubuntu works on it and this is where it is starting to fall down for me.

Seems that Flash is ceasing support for newer version for linux. That is one of the apps that my 12.04 has trouble with - dead dodgy video playing which it didn't do on previous versions. It'll play fine for a while and then, if too much is going on with the CPU for a while it's like it gets some semaphores or buffers out of step or some such and starts to stutter. Only a restart will fix it after that.
 
I was a big Ubuntu fan up to 9.X. For the most part, it just worked. Starting with 10.x and through at least 11.11.11 it is total death on my system. The install goes fine and it boots fine, but after a few minutes of doing anything or a few seconds of trying to transfer a file somewhere, the system locks up tight. No HD activity, I can move the mouse but the buttons and keyboard are nonresponsive.

I have a self built system that is just about as common/mainstream as you can get. Someone told me to try Mint, but it acts the same. I haven't even bothered with Commodore OS as I'm sure there will be the same problem.

Shame really. I can't be bothered to go a different route at this time. Ubuntu was geared to end users. From what I have seen other distros require a lot more command line fuckfuckery. No patience at this pont in my life. If Ubuntu kept simply just working, I probably would have never bought Win7.

I am now splitting my computer usage between my Win7 PC and MorphOS 3.1 on a beefy G4 Power Mac. MorphOS is like an old bicycle and mostly just works, with a few glaring shortcomings.
 
On Moob Dammy asked if I have tried CentOS. I really know nothing about it. I'll check it out sometime I have free time and in the mood.
 
CentOS is based on the source code used in RedHat Enterprise, so it is very similar, I was a fan up until version 5.4, since then, things seem to have gone downhill. I was a huge fan of RedHat Linux up until version 9 when they merged with the Fedora Project, then I moved onto SuSE. SuSE was great for a while, again version 9 seemed to be my favorite, but then they released SuSE 10 and it became a bloated shithole. At that point I became a little disillusioned with the alphebet soup of Linux distros that seemed to be appearing, at the time someone suggested Debian but I'd had enough. Windows XP had matured quite nicely by then so it became my default OS for the desktop environment. The arrival of Vista spurred me to again take a look at alternatives, MacOS was out as it had become a shadow of it's former self, I think OS 10.4 would be the point where Apple started to lose the plot, so I just stuck with Windows XP. At some point someone suggested I take a look at Ubuntu 9.1 and I was a little captivated, so I installed it on one of my machines, mostly for testing purposes and grew quite fond of it. One day I decided to upgrade the box to 11.10, I swear I couldn't downgrade back to 9.1 quick enough. Now it seems Windows 7 has become my default daily use OS.
 
@Adz
I had a similar path. I started with Red Hat, mainly just tinkering. Years later I started using SUSE regularly, 7.X through 9.X IIRC. At some pointe I started using Ubuntu, probably 8.X somehwere and 9.1 was my only OS for at least a year. When I first made the move to 10.x it really fucked me up. I had some trouble retreiving archived stuff from the HD. I ended up going back to XP soley for a few years before finally caving into Win7 for DirectX 11.
 
I'm still using Ubuntu 10.04 mostly because I'm to lazy to upgrade and it basically works fine.
I do all my online stuff there (browser / ftp / torrent)

I've heard similar complaints about later versions of Ubuntu. In fact at 1st the biggest bitching and moaning was about Unity

ok, so the other reason I didn't upgrade was to wait until the dust settles
 
I installed Ubuntu as a VMWare image on my Win7 box. It's alright but I never use it. I installed it only so I could download the Android source code. Win7 is nicer.
 
seriously?
window7 may have some interesting eye candy, but unless I need to use AfterEffects I just hate the stupid updates that interrupt my work.

my ubuntu is so damn stable.
 
I'm currently running Mint Maya 64 bit with MATE desktop no flash problems, easy to use GOME 2.0 desktop

Ubuntu with the Unity Desktop I disliked it, and there were lots of flash and other glitches, I removed it

Xubuntu was better with the Xfce desktop was a nice setup, no flash problems
 
having vented my spleen regarding the stupid usb problems i was having ... i booted up today and plugged thesme old device ihad problems with before and transfered some big video files. fast just like it should be. odd. an update perhaps?

sorry for the lower case. im not trying to be all e.e.cummings, but proper capitalization is a pain on the tablet.
 
cecilia said:
seriously?
window7 may have some interesting eye candy, but unless I need to use AfterEffects I just hate the stupid updates that interrupt my work.

my ubuntu is so damn stable.
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Win7 is pretty rock solid I find, and that's on a PC I built from the ground up. I can understand why some people may prefer Linux, but Windows stability isn't really an issue any more. And as for security updates, I think MS leads the way in terms of getting patches out there. It's companies like Adobe and Oracle that have dropped the ball. Actually, Adobe is getting better, but Oracle is so bad most security experts not only recommend but insist everyone uninstalls the Java runtime - it is so full of holes zero day exploits are discovered the very day Oracle issues a patch. And btw, those JVM exploits affect Linux as well (and that means MacOS as well).
 
Still working out a few niggling issues with Kubuntu 12.04, but I suspect most of them are down to yours truly dropping it in as an update to a 5 year old install.

That said, with most of the show stoppers having been sorted (mostly down to a handful of libs not getting updated to precise versions from lucid) it's getting there. There are some real performance issues with using a 3d composited desktop under 12.04 that weren't there under 10.04, but 3d games are apparently unaffected. There was is an issue with the Synaptics trackpad, however switching to two finger scrolling seems to be an suitable workaround. Having the pad automatically cut out whilst typing is a surprisingly useful feature as I often during long typing sessions would catch it.

I don't like the Ubuntu default font and switched back to DejaVu again. But that is probably personal preference.

Am liking the new version of Kopete a lot however, far more stable than pidgin ever was. Then again KDE 4.8 is a far more capable desktop than either 4.4 or 4.5 (which I upgraded to via backports) ever was.

The load times of applications seem a bit slower, however I suspect that is down to some of the tweaks I put in on 10.04 being reset to the fairly conservative default settings. So it's simply a question of re tuning the system on that front.. 20 mins work when I get around to it.

Oh and Sleep mode still doesn't work. Not that it ever has under the *buntu codebase.

More added as I think about it and come across it.
 
robert l. bentham said:
is it slang or from the regular vernacular...?
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:rolleyes:
nig·gle

   [nig-uhl] verb (used without object), nig·gled, nig·gling.
1. to criticize, especially constantly or repeatedly, in a peevish or petty way; carp: to niggle about the fine points of interpretation; preferring to niggle rather than take steps to correct a situation.

2. to spend too much time and effort on inconsequential details: It's difficult to be meticulous and not niggle.

3. to work ineffectively; trifle: to niggle with an uninteresting task.

Origin:
1610–20; < Scandinavian; compare Norwegian nigla to be penurious (ultimately < Old Norse hnøggr stingy, cognate with Old English hnēaw )
 
glad someone looked it up... i had to run clear to antonino due to the rain. furnace guy showed up today and i wasnt actually there. hoped he hadnt left any windows open... i didnt think it was n word related (just to be clear)... i just hadnt heard it before and i was actually an english major (tho i admit thats prolly hard to tell at times), first.
 
It's funny, since I started learning a bit of programming, my use of different operating systems has become less and less adventurous. Despite having several machines dotted about the house, I now do almost everything on this Macbook Pro. It has a copy of Windows 7 on it which I boot into when I have to but ~95% of my computing is now done via OSX.

I should point out that being kept extremely busy probably had as much to do with this than anything else. I'm more or less finished now so should have a bit more tinkering time on my hands to play about with some other OS's.
 
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