We have your son hostage

FluffyMcDeath

FluffyMcDeath

Active Member
Member
Joined
May 17, 2005
Messages
12,256
Reaction score
2,693
We know this must be difficult for you and we really empathize with your suffering. We understand that it would be a hardship to pay the ransom, indeed it may be impossible. Regrettably your son will then die.
However, if we were to release your son without paying the ransom then everyone else would expect their loved ones to be released without ransom also. This would be a loss of income that we are not willing to accept.
 
the 54-person company cannot afford to spend $50,000 on each compassionate-use patient
Click to expand...


I'm not usually a big fan of charity fundraisers but surely this is a good candidate?
 
Hey Fluffy, if the kid dies from complications of the drug are you gonna post here about the evils of drug companies that push unapproved drugs onto our kids?
 
Glaucus said:
Hey Fluffy, if the kid dies from complications of the drug are you gonna post here about the evils of drug companies that push unapproved drugs onto our kids?
Click to expand...

And now ... the longer answer.

If it's experimental then everyone knows what they are getting into. Sounds like people are looking for a straw to cling to, a last hope. But if the treatment is experimental still then what are they doing charging $50,000 for it?

Now, of course, the firm is in a tricky situation. If the treatment kills the kid it'll look bad. If the treatment doesn't save the kid, same thing. Shares will be impacted. So, they better be pretty sure it works. The upside could be very good.
 
You know, you really didn't need to reply to that. You must have a lot of free time.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
If it's experimental then everyone knows what they are getting into. Sounds like people are looking for a straw to cling to, a last hope. But if the treatment is experimental still then what are they doing charging $50,000 for it?
Click to expand...

it costs them $50k per individual in the FDA trial for the required medical testing to monitor the patients in the trial

the company finalized negotiations with the FDA to provide Josh the drug, Brincidofovir, as part of a drug trial involving 20 people. The talks had been underway since last year. The special 20-person trial avoids potential ethical problems and other complications of giving the unproven treatment to selective patients. providing the drug to Josh exclusively would undermine an ongoing drug trial, in which 450 people will participate but some would get a placebo
​
So Fluffy, what should be done about the 450 people in the current trial, half of whom are currently taking a placebo?
 
metalman said:
So Fluffy, what should be done about the 450 people in the current trial, half of whom are currently taking a placebo?
Click to expand...
Ethics don't matter, Fluffy is already convinced that money alone makes people evil. Ironic really because he's probably the whyzzat member with the most accumulated wealth.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Glaucus said:
Ironic really because he's probably the whyzzat member with the most accumulated wealth.
Click to expand...

Aww. That's so nice of you to say.
Click to expand...

You kulak! Share the Wealth!

It means that we have passed from the policy of restricting the exploiting tendencies of the kulaks to the policy of eliminating the kulaks as a class. It means that we have carried out, and are continuing to carry out, one of the decisive turns in our whole policy.-- Joseph Stalin

The average value of goods confiscated from kulaks during the policy of "dekulakization" (раскулачивание) at the beginning of the 1930s was only $90–$210 (170-400 rubles) per household.[3] Both peasants and Soviet officials were often uncertain as to what constituted a kulak. They often used the term to label anyone who had more property than was considered "normal," according to a subjective criteria, and personal rivalries played a part in the classification of enemies

The land of the landlords had been spontaneously seized by the peasantry in 1917-18. A small class of richer peasants with around fifty to eighty acres had then been expropriated by the Bolsheviks. Thereafter a Marxist conception of class struggle led to an almost totally imaginary class categorization of kulak, where peasants with a couple of cows or five or six acres more than their neighbors were now being labeled "kulaks," and a class war against them declared
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top