Whacky Muslim trying to subvert American Justice

Thanks for sharing that Fluffy, can't quite put the words together to express how I feel in this case. I'll chew on it some more.
 
Nice to see someone trying to forgive.
 
He's getting the death penalty for killing Vasudev Patel and Waqar Hasan. He is scheduled to die today

Mark Stroman was convicted in the October 2001 slaying of Vasudev Patel, who worked at a gas station convenience store in the Dallas suburb of Mesquite, one of three people shot — and two killed — by Stroman

Seems he had an imaginary sister who died in the 9/11 attacks.

On October 4, 2001, Stroman shot and killed Patel during an attempted robbery at a Mesquite gas station that Patel operated. A store security camera captured the attempted robbery and murder.

When Stroman entered the station early that morning, he demanded money from Patel. Patel reached for a .22 caliber pistol that he kept under the cash register, but he did not retrieve it. Stroman then shot the unarmed Patel in the chest, causing Patel to fall to the floor. The surveillance video showed that while Patel lay dying on the floor, Stroman was unable to open the cash register. Stroman demanded that Patel “open the register or I’ll kill you."

Stroman later described the robbery and shooting, and his motives and preparation for it to a fellow prisoner, who testified at Stroman’s trial that Stroman told him he had “been in the store two or three times previously to check it out and he didn’t see any cameras.” Stroman admitted that he intentionally killed Patel

On September 15, 2001, Stroman murdered Waqar Hasan by shooting him in the head as Hasan grilled hamburgers in his Dallas store.

On September 21, 2001, Stroman shot and wounded Raisuddin Bhuiuian as Bhuiuian worked in a convenience store and service station.

As a juvenile, Stroman was convicted of aggravated robbery, car theft, and burglary of a habitation twice. A psychological evaluation of Stroman revealed that, starting at the age of nine, he had stolen bicycles and cars, sold and used drugs.

Stroman was convicted of burglary and sentenced to two years in prison for ransacking a man’s house and stealing rifles, jewelry, clothes, and checks. Stroman drained the man’s bank account by writing hot checks. At the same time, Stroman was also sentenced to two years in prison for theft from another individual.

On November 6, 1990, Stroman robbed a woman of her purse outside an auto parts store and began to buy items with the woman’s credit cards. Stroman was convicted of robbery and sentenced to eight years in prison. Stroman was also convicted of two counts of credit-card abuse and received two additional eight-year sentences to run concurrently.

On July 14, 2001, Stroman was arrested for carrying a firearm in an establishment that sold alcohol. Stroman was indicted for unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon as a second offender but was released from jail on bond on July 16, 2001. Stroman began his murder spree while out on bond.
 
Ya, saw a story about that last night on the CBC. Pretty sad.
 
HUNTSVILLE (AP) – Mark Stroman was executed at 8:53 p.m. Wednesday for the death of 49-year-old Vasudev Patel.
 
So much hate in the world, and an act of compassion, forgiveness and love from a victim is crushed by a machine in order to satisfy its need for revenge. So, so sad.
 
motorollin said:
So much hate in the world, and an act of compassion, forgiveness and love from a victim is crushed by a machine in order to satisfy its need for revenge. So, so sad.
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so many people (esp americans) fear compassion because they see it as a weakness.

just imagine if a real human being had been President Sept 12, 2001.
Just imagine if he or she had said to the World, I am saddened and horrified by this criminal act and THOSE responsible will be brought to justice, but the rest of the world has to unite and learn to live and love together.

Just imagine if this president had allowed the CIA, interpolate and the Navy Seals (and whoever else is part of this sort of operation) to locate bin laden et al to either be captured and brought to trial or killed and countless innocent human beings were NOT killed or worse because NO wars were part of this secret operation.

And the world was on the side of America that day......so it's not like it would have been completely out of line to suggest it could have been.

it would have been a transforming moment in world history. To Respond to evil with calm logic and compassion. But unfortunately, the US did not have a human being as Vice-president at the time. and the pres was just a brainless puppet.
It takes a lot of strength to be compassionate and rational, which is why many people don't possess that ability.

And it's been that way since humanoids were grubbing for plants and following animals for days in the hopes of killing one for food. The smart, rational people are the ones who advance society and the dumbasses mess things up.
Yesterday - July 20th - was the anniversary of the 1969 Moon landing. THOSE people advanced society. (And I mean the 1000's on earth who each contributed, not just the guys standing on the Moon). Meanwhile - at the same time - idiots were waging that stupid waste of everything, 'Nam. :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, the idiots will always be with us. Our job is to figure out how to minimize their effect. We are the smart ones, right?
 
motorollin said:
So much hate in the world, and an act of compassion, forgiveness and love from a victim is crushed by a machine in order to satisfy its need for revenge. So, so sad.
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Pay attention :smack:

Stroman was executed for killing Vasudev Patel and Waqar Hasan.

Stroman shot only shot and wounded Raisuddin Bhuiuian. Bhuiuian can forgive Stroman if he wants to, but it has no bearing on the crimes Stroman was executed for. The only remorse Stroman had was he didn't double tap Bhuiuian.
 
It should be noted that the families of the other two victims also supported Raisuddi's goal of commuting the death penalty.

Once again the US shows how it is more similar rather then different from the enemy it is fighting. Harsh punishments are just one more thing the US has in common with the radical Islamists.
 
Glaucus said:
It should be noted that the families of the other two victims also supported Raisuddi's goal of commuting the death penalty.

Once again the US shows how it is more similar rather then different from the enemy it is fighting. Harsh punishments are just one more thing the US has in common with the radical Islamists.
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Given the violent criminal record prior to the murders that Metalman pointed out, TX was protecting the population by executing him. If he was released, he would be right back to his violent ways.
 
redrumloa said:
Given the violent criminal record prior to the murders that Metalman pointed out, TX was protecting the population by executing him. If he was released, he would be right back to his violent ways.
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You don't have to kill him, you also can try to cure him or if that's not possible, just keep him in jail for the rest of his life.
 
redrumloa said:
Given the violent criminal record prior to the murders that Metalman pointed out, TX was protecting the population by executing him. If he was released, he would be right back to his violent ways.
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I don't think anyone wanted to see him released. Just not put to death. Big difference.
 
metalman said:
Pay attention :smack:

Stroman was executed for killing Vasudev Patel and Waqar Hasan.

Stroman shot only shot and wounded Raisuddin Bhuiuian. Bhuiuian can forgive Stroman if he wants to, but it has no bearing on the crimes Stroman was executed for. The only remorse Stroman had was he didn't double tap Bhuiuian.
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I didn't say he shouldn't be punished, but the victims shouldn't have been prevented from trying to reconcile with the attacker. As others have said, the other victims felt the same way, so why exactly were the courts preventing this?
 
Glaucus said:
It should be noted that the families of the other two victims also supported Raisuddi's goal of commuting the death penalty.

Once again the US shows how it is more similar rather then different from the enemy it is fighting. Harsh punishments are just one more thing the US has in common with the radical Islamists.
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That's up to the people of TX to decide on what punishment should or should not be. Say, you are not one of those who tell other countries what is moral and what isn't, by any chance?
 
metalman said:
He's getting the death penalty for killing Vasudev Patel and Waqar Hasan. [yada yada yada]
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Yes, he committed many crimes and perpetrated evil. That is the point. Despite all that one of his victims wants to forgive him, spare his life and reconcile. Reciting the catalogue of crime doesn't change that.
 
Glaucus said:
It should be noted that the families of the other two victims also supported Raisuddi's goal of commuting the death penalty.
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Bhuiyan's motives for "his forgiveness" are his own, but the "support of the other families" part of his story seems exaggerated.

Raisuddin Bhuiuian may have spoken with the other victims families, but the other families have given no indication that they agreed with his "forgiveness" of Stroman.

The Hasan family moved back to New Jersey after Waqar's murder, has issued no statements, and the Dallas Morning News could not locate them for an interview.

Alka Patel, the widow of Vasudev Patel, who still lives in Mesquite TX, and runs the gas station herself now, has said in previous interviews, that the family was "very happy with the courts verdict" and that the brutality of the killings called for the death penalty.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Yes, he committed many crimes and perpetrated evil. That is the point. Despite all that one of his victims wants to forgive him, spare his life and reconcile. Reciting the catalogue of crime doesn't change that.
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I see no reason for the State of Texas to have spared him his life, he didn't spare his victims.
 
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