Why Amiga in 2011.

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Didn't know if you've seen this. I thought it was a fairly good representation.

It also peaked my interest in trying MorphOS. There's some $100 used G4 Mini's I think I might pick one up.
 
Spend a few extra Euro and get the 1.5Mhz version Mac Mini. It has 64MB VRAM, which you will want.

After a few false starts, it looks like I am finally getting a 1.8Ghz upgrade card for my Quicksilver 2002 Power Mac. With the cost of this CPU upgrade, I will have a grand total of $325 spent on my MorphOS Power Mac, including MorphOS license, and it will run circles around the $3000+ AmigaOne X1000.
 
Thanks for the idea. I'll keep my eye open. It seems most are the 1.42Ghz versions.
 
metalman said:
Icaros Desktop is a pre-configured AROS desktop environment for the PC platform, distributed on a bootable live media.
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Now that I'm willing to try.

The official Amiga OS and/or morphOS really need to get off PPC. If they're religiously opposed to Intel, then at least port it to ARM. They'd have all those Android tablets to choose from as a cheap hardware base. I still think an intel desktop is the best choice, any ARM portable would also force them to take power management seriously, and who wants to do that?
 
Glaucus said:
Now that I'm willing to try.

The official Amiga OS and/or morphOS really need to get off PPC. If they're religiously opposed to Intel, then at least port it to ARM. They'd have all those Android tablets to choose from as a cheap hardware base. I still think an intel desktop is the best choice, any ARM portable would also force them to take power management seriously, and who wants to do that?
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Yes, the world is now x86
he mentioned it in the video, so I looked it up and downloaded, (800mb)
will install this weekend and give it a try
 
Not sure why anyone bothers to make Amiga processor specific. Certainly there's an arguement to be made about speed. But, guys these processors have killer speeds compared to the old 68K days. Emulation is capable. My AmigaForever app kills my PPC/060 A4000T that in the end I sold it. Simply because the new hardware is more capable and cost effective.

Why not make an Amiga that simply always runs in a Virtual world? Then we only need a small emulation layer to execute the Virtual environment and do the linking to say that 'SATA drive' is driven through 'SCSI.device' calls.
 
MorphOS runs Amiga software natively, as long as it doesn't bang the old custom chips directly (ancient games and demos). To a lesser extent, OS4 also runs Amiga software natively. AROS OTOH does not run Amiga software at all without using (non-JIT) UAE.
 
Glaucus said:
any ARM portable would also force them to take power management seriously, and who wants to do that?
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It's not exactly rocket science.

Anyway, they've probably already done it for the G4 laptop and they'll certainly need to do it for the G5.
 
redrumloa said:
MorphOS runs Amiga software natively, as long as it doesn't bang the old custom chips directly (ancient games and demos). To a lesser extent, OS4 also runs Amiga software natively. AROS OTOH does not run Amiga software at all without using (non-JIT) UAE.
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AFAIK, PPC can not run M68K binaries natively, it has to be emulated/translated at some point. Emulating 25 year old software on a single 3GHz+ core is good enough IMO.
 
Dammy said:
AFAIK, PPC can not run M68K binaries natively, it has to be emulated/translated at some point. Emulating 25 year old software on a single 3GHz+ core is good enough IMO.
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I don't think AROS has JIT yet? Even on 3Ghz+ it will run Amiga software pretty slow compared to a Power Mac.

I have nothing against AROS. I just prefer MorphOS. MorphOS also has the best native software of all the NG options, such as OWB. Modern web browsing to me is a must and the MOS version of OWB is quite good.
 
redrumloa said:
I don't think AROS has JIT yet? Even on 3Ghz+ it will run Amiga software pretty slow compared to a Power Mac.
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AROS has UAE/JIT for years. I'd have to see some timed benchmarks to believe that Power Mac can beat a i7 2600K, core for core with UAE. Hell, the new ARM A15 will probably beat core for core against G4s if not G5s.

I have nothing against AROS. I just prefer MorphOS. MorphOS also has the best native software of all the NG options, such as OWB. Modern web browsing to me is a must and the MOS version of OWB is quite good.
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I have nothing against MOS either. It's down to what modern hardware will run for me. I have no interest in buying used PPC, M68K, OTOH might be kinda fun but very low on my priority list.
 
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