Why President Elect Obama is good for the United States.

James T Kirk

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President Elect Obama is good for the United States because he has proven that now Martin Luther King Juniors dream has been realized and racism is no longer an issue. President Elect Obama has proven that the African-American’s of this land are now equal to the “white man” who has been blamed for enslaving his people. President Elect Obama has exonerated all white people forever for their crimes of slavery and oppression of the African-American community forever. We can now all live as one group of brethren under the same liberties afford by this great country. Yes, we can now all be called “Americans” and all racial tags can be dropped as the great Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. had pleaded for. God Bless America! :D
 
Congrats! You get the award for saying the dumbest thing I've heard all all week!
 
James T,

Not sure I can go with "dumbest thing I've heard all week".. It's been a long week and you know where I work... :)

That being said, there's no doubt it was a milestone decision, but -- speaking personally -- I believe this was more a vote against "the same" than about race for most.

Racism as a general term still very much exists and is sadly very strong in parts of the USA. Particularly -- as can be seen in the electoral map -- in southern states and more rural areas. Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas and the like where such problems will never go away in our (or more than likely our grandchildren's) time.

Not saying I condone racism. Not saying the election of Barack Obama wasn't a monumental one. Just saying that the reasons for it are not always -- pardon the pun -- black or white.

What I do find very interesting is that overnight the United States "street cred" just went up several notches in the world arena, with literally dozens of other world leaders now offering to work with us where before, they were strictly hands-off to the Republican regime..

Wayne
 
What I do find very interesting is that overnight the United States "street cred" just went up several notches in the world arena, with literally dozens of other world leaders now offering to work with us where before, they were strictly hands-off to the Republican regime..
And is what I totally expected. You see, many Americans didn't vote for Barack because he felt "too different", like he wasn't American enough. Non-Americans like him for that exact same reason. Obama is really a man of two worlds, and such a man is better suited at understanding both sides of an issue and more capable at building bridges. In other words, the complete opposite of GWB in terms of foreign relations and policy. Foreign leaders (and their people) understand that Obama is a man they can deal with no matter how inflexible their own policies might be, where as GWB was not interested in flexibility at all as he demanded only conformity and submission.
 
James T Kirk said:
President Elect Obama is good for the United States because he has proven that now Martin Luther King Juniors dream has been realized and racism is no longer an issue. President Elect Obama has proven that the African-American’s of this land are now equal to the “white man” who has been blamed for enslaving his people. President Elect Obama has exonerated all white people forever for their crimes of slavery and oppression of the African-American community forever. We can now all live as one group of brethren under the same liberties afford by this great country. Yes, we can now all be called “Americans” and all racial tags can be dropped as the great Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. had pleaded for. God Bless America! :D
are you 12? :roll:
 
cecilia said:
are you 12? :roll:

After talking it over with him in person, I believe what he was trying to say is that the final hurdle has been cleared in America for blacks as a generalization. Meaning that while yes, racism still exists, there are no more excuses of being "kept down by the man" to rely on, for any race.

In that aspect, I'll tentatively buy what James was trying to say (but failed in his original post).

Wayne
 
Glaucus said:
Congrats! You get the award for saying the dumbest thing I've heard all all week!

Then you must not understand what I am saying. Because it is brilliant. 8)
 
Sorry, but I can't get over this:
President Elect Obama has exonerated all white people forever for their crimes of slavery and oppression of the African-American community forever.

I don't think Obama as pres exonerates anyone of anything. And since 100% of Americans didn't vote for Obama, how can you say such a blanketing statement? You can argue that racism is no longer mainstream, but I've also read that the economy was the key issue and even racists need money. And although the election is over, there were many threats made by racists of what they would do if Obama won. What would we say if some of them carry those threats through?
 
No more...

No more saying that the African-American people are oppressed by the lack of opportunities afforded to minorities. This man's story is contrary to the mainstream propaganda that the African-Am... Forget this… Black people can no longer complain that “Whitey” is holding them back. 8)
 
cecilia said:
James T Kirk said:
President Elect Obama is good for the United States because he has proven that now Martin Luther King Juniors dream has been realized and racism is no longer an issue. President Elect Obama has proven that the African-American’s of this land are now equal to the “white man” who has been blamed for enslaving his people. President Elect Obama has exonerated all white people forever for their crimes of slavery and oppression of the African-American community forever. We can now all live as one group of brethren under the same liberties afford by this great country. Yes, we can now all be called “Americans” and all racial tags can be dropped as the great Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. had pleaded for. God Bless America! :D
are you 12? :roll:

Obviously you do not understand the history of the civil rights movement and the “strides” that the Black folks have been trying to make on the back of the legendary MLK Jr. In addition, you obviously are someone too young or in experienced to understand the politics of this situation. Furthermore, I don’t want to hear any more about minorities being oppressed when there are several examples of minorities reaching new heights in politics, business, medicine and other fields. The logic you are missing is that anybody can be anything in America if they work hard and have a desire. It is called the “American Dream” which is available for all Americans unless physically or mentally challenged. The Black Man can no longer claim foul against Whitey. I don’t have the time to explain history and politics to you but if you apply some energy and time you will understand the great implications to race relationships now that a black man has finally reached the pinnacle of political success in the US and in the world. 8)
 
Wayne said:
cecilia said:
are you 12? :roll:

After talking it over with him in person, I believe what he was trying to say is that the final hurdle has been cleared in America for blacks as a generalization. Meaning that while yes, racism still exists, there are no more excuses of being "kept down by the man" to rely on, for any race.

In that aspect, I'll tentatively buy what James was trying to say (but failed in his original post).

Wayne
you actually talk to this guy in person??

wow
 
cecilia said:
Wayne said:
cecilia said:
are you 12? :roll:

After talking it over with him in person, I believe what he was trying to say is that the final hurdle has been cleared in America for blacks as a generalization. Meaning that while yes, racism still exists, there are no more excuses of being "kept down by the man" to rely on, for any race.

In that aspect, I'll tentatively buy what James was trying to say (but failed in his original post).

Wayne
you actually talk to this guy in person??

wow

No more excuses for claiming to be held back from the American dream because your skin is a different color. That argument cannot hold water anymore. I further state that the myth was busted many times over the last several years. However, now that an "acceptable" black person (meaning liberal) has made it to the top, there is equality for all. Thank you BO and MLK. We are all colorless at last. Amen and God bless the colorless USA.
 
Black church in Springfield burns

Looks like racism is alive and well in the good old South. The US still has a long way to go. I knew some thing like this would happen to remind the world of how backwards the US still is. Just because a black man is elected as president doesn't make the hate & stupidity go away.
 
This is not the end of racism in America

The racists in this country are not going to stop being racist just because Barack Obama was elected President. As an example, here's a story for you. I found it on a blog that I read from time to time.

This morning something deeply disturbing happened to my 13 year-old nephew, Christopher. He got a text message, which had been forwarded around from person to person, from one of his best friends, a girl we’ll call Ashley. It went something like this:

"America has elected a nigger. Today in school show your support for the KKK by refusing to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance."

Christopher lives in Alabama, where this kind of ignorance isn’t terribly hard to find, and he’s a bit more advanced than some of his classmates where racial issues are concerned. He grew up in Charlotte (and NC urban areas are a lot more progressive than the outback), has always had black and biracial friends, and like so many kids of his generation he simply doesn’t see race as a big deal. He’s not blind to the fact that racism exists, of course, but it’s never been a factor in his personal life. A couple years ago, though, my sister and her family moved to Huntsville, and she reports that things are very different on the cultural front.

Christopher was beside himself. When he saw the message he told his mother that he thought he was going to be sick, and when I talked to him a few minutes later he was obviously shaken. He couldn’t believe that Ashley, someone that his whole family really likes (my sister says she’s almost become family), would pass something like that on. He was going to talk to her, when he got to school, to see if she even had any idea about what she had done.

You know kids, you know school, you know what it was to be that age. We all did appalling things, and maybe this is a case where a fundamentally good girl did something simply because she didn’t grasp what it meant. Christopher wants to make sure she understands some things about the Klan - he doesn’t think the kids in his school really know what it is - and he wants her to understand the group’s history, to understand things like church bombings and the struggle for civil rights.

Christopher understands how remarkable last night was: a black man elected president, when not very long ago - during his parents’ lives, in fact - a black man had to drink from a separate water fountain, sit in the back of a bus, and so on.
 
James T Kirk said:
No more excuses for claiming to be held back from the American dream because your skin is a different color. That argument cannot hold water anymore.
As Steven Tyler said... Dream on dream until the dream comes true...
 
faethor said:
James T Kirk said:
No more excuses for claiming to be held back from the American dream because your skin is a different color. That argument cannot hold water anymore.
As Steven Tyler said... Dream on dream until the dream comes true...

And the "dream" is now realized. President Elect Obama will be my president and I will support him and pray for him. Although I am concerned about his ability to govern for the people (as I am for all politicians) I am patient and I give him the benefit of any doubt that I may have. I wish this country the best and I want for us to remain the World's Super Power no matter what skin color our president has. We have reached the "dream" and that speaks volumes for our nation. Live long and perspire. :)
 
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The monster years



Last night wasn’t just a victory for tolerance; it wasn’t just a mandate for progressive change; it was also, I hope, the end of the monster years.

What I mean by that is that for the past 14 years America’s political life has been largely dominated by, well, monsters. Monsters like Tom DeLay, who suggested that the shootings at Columbine happened because schools teach students the theory of evolution. Monsters like Karl Rove, who declared that liberals wanted to offer “therapy and understanding” to terrorists. Monsters like Dick Cheney, who saw 9/11 as an opportunity to start torturing people.

And in our national discourse, we pretended that these monsters were reasonable, respectable people. To point out that the monsters were, in fact, monsters, was “shrill.”

Four years ago it seemed as if the monsters would dominate American politics for a long time to come. But for now, at least, they’ve been banished to the wilderness.
 
James T Kirk said:
Yes, we can now all be called “Americans” and all racial tags can be dropped as the great Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. had pleaded for.
Woman killed for wanting to leave KKK rally without being initiated.
 
faethor said:
James T Kirk said:
Yes, we can now all be called “Americans” and all racial tags can be dropped as the great Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. had pleaded for.
Woman killed for wanting to leave KKK rally without being initiated.

What does that have to do with "race relations"? Also, I want somebody to define "race" as it applies to humanity.
 
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