Haiti rocked by devastating 7.0 earthquake

FluffyMcDeath said:
They aren't the only group with delusional beliefs sending useless gadgets to a disaster zone. Check out what some nuts are sending.

I presume these are the gadgets they refer to.

At least maybe some enterprising Haitian can rip the solar panel off it to charge cell phones so it might not be a total waste.

Uuuh, maybe rescue and feed the people first? :roll:
 
redrumloa said:
Uuuh, maybe rescue and feed the people first? :roll:
This is food. Their souls are fed. They are rescued. When they die they get to be with God forever. Therein lines the problem with religion.

But really free bibles in a country that's 85%+ Catholic? God's already there. "For where two or more are gathered in my name I am there" -- probably a slight issue as I grabbed it from memory and didn't, nor don't, care to search out the exact book/chapter/verse.
 
Well, the US army went and made a fool of me. When I saw them shipping in thousands of troops I thought that's great because there's no heavy machinery in Haiti and they'll just trade their riffles in for shovels and dig in with the locals. Or use their helicopters to distribute aid rapidly across the country. But nope, that never happened. At least not by US troops. Instead they took control of the airport (good) and decided to prioritize US military traffic over international humanitarian flights (not good at all, and down right stupid). I can't blame Fluffy for accusing the US of invading Haiti.

Why Did We Focus on Securing Haiti Rather Than Helping Haitians?

I'm still not convinced the US has any real nasty plans for Haiti, I think it's just more of a case that the US army is just way too psychotic for humanitarian roles. In other parts of the world the army is routinely used to help in natural disasters. The US however uses it's national guard for that domestically, the army and marines however are trained for killing. No surprise then that their first priority is to set up a "green zone" around the airport, it's just what they're used to. Either way, it does suggest that Americans really don't know how to help people. Maybe it's because they don't know how to help themselves.
 
OK, so the Americans' secured the presidential palace.
They also secured the airport, though that doesn't mean that aid can land there.

Meanwhile US forces are to grow to 20,000.

While nearby Cuba has oil it decided to share with Russia it seems that Haiti isn't as under resourced as we have assumed. It's just that they don't have the ability to use their resources for their own income. There may even be a lot of oil there and it sure would be a shame if the Russians got that too.

It looks like the old dictator, Duvalier, found a way to make plenty of money off of Haiti. Apparently Haiti has lots of lovely beaches to dump toxic waste on. How is that efficient? Duvalier made millions and the cost went to other people. Same old same old.

So while America sends guns cuba sends doctors.
 
FYI: ?????? means Truth or Truly, although it seems a bit off as it's really: ??????? or ???????, depending on how you use it. Aletho however is closer to the word used for grinding or milling: ?????. The upper case H (and lower case ? - Eeta) make an 'I' sound in Greek, where as the backwards 3 (? - epsilon) makes an 'E' sound. Slight but important difference.

I hate it when people like to be "clever" by using Greek letters or words they don't understand.
 
Glaucus said:
The upper case H (and lower case ? - Eeta) make an 'I' sound in Greek, where as the backwards 3 (? - epsilon) makes an 'E' sound.

That's not as helpful as it might be on account of the vagaries of English spelling. Do you mean 'I' as in eye or short ee and is 'E' a long eeee or just eh' ?
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Glaucus said:
The upper case H (and lower case ? - Eeta) make an 'I' sound in Greek, where as the backwards 3 (? - epsilon) makes an 'E' sound.

That's not as helpful as it might be on account of the vagaries of English spelling. Do you mean 'I' as in eye or short ee and is 'E' a long eeee or just eh' ?
Good question. I'm not a language expert so it's tricky for me to explain properly. However, the Eeta makes a sound like the 'i' in Police. If I were to spell ?????? with English characters, the closest I could get would be A-Lee-Thos, and that's a soft "th", like in "Thanks" but softer still. English speakers usually get that wrong because they're more used to "th" in words like The, Them, Those, etc. Just remember that "O" with a minus sign in the middle is a "Theta". I bolded where the accent would go (in Greek accents aren't used on all-caps, but if it were in lowercase the accent would be over the 'o', which I just noticed is spelled with an Omega. I believe that actually should have been spelled with the English character O - one of the few letters the English and Greek alphabets share not just in symbol but in pronunciation).

Epsilon does sound more like "eh", or more accurately like the first 'e' in "elephant" or "ethics". ????? in English characters would be something like: A-Le-Tho - again a soft "th". Overall not a big difference from A-Lee-Thos, except of course in meaning.
 
Glaucus said:
... would be A-Lee-Thos,

That's about how I read it but with the emphasis on Lee. I didn't see Le. I wonder if that is a UK / NA thing or some other thing.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Glaucus said:
... would be A-Lee-Thos,

That's about how I read it but with the emphasis on Lee. I didn't see Le. I wonder if that is a UK / NA thing or some other thing.
Hmmm... I saw Le, but I'm no linguist. Greek written in English is tricky for many reasons, but writing it in Greek is even trickier. For me anyway. It just seems wrong to me, but I can see how there could be variations in the trans-language spelling. If it were Alethos News it would have been closer, but Aletho News seems off to me.

Btw, I was wrong about the Omega. It's correct the way it is. There's a bunch of rules as to when to use an Omega or a regular O. Typically Omega is used at the end of verbs, but not exclusively as is the case here. It's been too long since my Greek school lessons.
 
As horrible as this situation is, with one negative after another, there may finally be a positive to come out of the earthquake.

Haiti Earthquake May Have Exposed Gas, Aiding Economy

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... qFB_GbhRYM

Jan. 26 (Bloomberg) -- The earthquake that killed more than 150,000 people in Haiti this month may have left clues to petroleum reservoirs that could aid economic recovery in the Western Hemisphere’s poorest nation, a geologist said.

The Jan. 12 earthquake was on a fault line that passes near potential gas reserves, said Stephen Pierce, a geologist who worked in the region for 30 years for companies including the former Mobil Corp. The quake may have cracked rock formations along the fault, allowing gas or oil to temporarily seep toward the surface, he said yesterday in a telephone interview.

“A geologist, callous as it may seem, tracing that fault zone from Port-au-Prince to the border looking for gas and oil seeps, may find a structure that hasn’t been drilled,” said Pierce, exploration manager at Zion Oil & Gas Inc., a Dallas- based company that’s drilling in Israel. “A discovery could significantly improve the country’s economy and stimulate further exploration.”

Shut up Fluffy!!! :lol:
 
Chavez is a heartless bastard.

He should be extending new emergency loans with strings attached, not forgiving debt and letting them off scot free.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Chavez is a heartless bastard.

He should be extending new emergency loans with strings attached, not forgiving debt and letting them off scot free.

Hmm.. By Fluffy rules wouldn't that mean all he really wants to do is get in their good graces to sucker them out of their newly found natural resources?

In the meantime the USA just wants Haitians to die off, that is why Haitian victims strain Florida hospitals.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/l ... als-013010
 
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