Watching the RNC

[metalman]

It also talks about the voice vote on the rule change for rule 16 which would tighten up the party bosses control over who can get delegates. This was a contentious vote and though those against may well have lost in a straight up and down vote

revised Rule 16:
every state must amend its nominating process to ensure that their delegations are bound to vote in accordance with the winner of the popular vote as cast at state caucuses or primaries.

 

[faethor]

Gore has it right - there's no reason for the electorial college. Many means to elect the President were considered. The Founders went with the electorial college because they felt availability and timeliness of information on the Presidential Candidates were difficult to come by for the Colonies.

Flip forward to the early 21st Century and you'll find the speed and lack of communication experienced in the 18th Century have been resolved. I suspect before the Century is out we'll have the ability to augment our wetwear with hardware that links directly into the vast information store of the Internet. The Founder's concerns really are resolved.

Thus, one of the large reasons for indirect elections of the President are resolved. Therefore, we should go to direct electability as we handle with any other candidate. Again - Gore has it right

 

[cecilia]

excellent point.
I've always been loath to EASILY change the constitution (please note that women getting the vote took a VERY Long Time). And that's because people should talk about it, think about it, and mull it over to make sure it's the right way to go.

I think the idea has merit and we should be talking about it.
Now
maybe after I am dead it will happen, but the discussion should begin

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

revised Rule 16:
every state must amend its nominating process to ensure that their delegations are bound to vote in accordance with the winner of the popular vote as cast at state caucuses or primaries.

Yes. That was in the video. So was the second half of rule 16. Did you watch it, by the way? Do you have any commentary on the way in which the rules were adopted?

 

[cecilia]

video

Colbert Explains Ayn Rand So Evan Paul Ryan Can Understand

 

[redrumloa]

This is a very important news segment.

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Original

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[FluffyMcDeath]

Additional uncaught exception thrown while handling exception.

A temporary state of affairs I hope. It works for me when I tried it just now. Not locally cached because I'm using my other laptop right now.

 

[redrumloa]

This is a very important news segment. It mentions the diverted busload of delegates I mentioned the other day though that link was posted under embedded video so I don't know if many people noticed it. It also talks about the voice vote on the rule change for rule 16 which would tighten up the party bosses control over who can get delegates. This was a contentious vote and though those against may well have lost in a straight up and down vote, it turns out they didn't have a chance anyway - you think Obama abuses the teleprompter? Fair enough, but he doesn't RULE by the teleprompter. Watch the video in the link above.

It is working now. What a bunch of {bleep} scumbag criminals!

 

[metalman]

Do you have any commentary on the way in which the rules were adopted?

Do you have any commentary on WHY the rules were adopted?

Ron Paul ran a stealth campaign after Romney clinched the nomination in Wisconsin, and Ron Paul officially suspended his campaign.

Across the country, Paul supporters stealth nominated themselves in the delegate-nominating process. Exploiting a byzantine caucus delegate selection process, Ron Paul supporters attempted to gain delegate majorities by masquerading as other candidates supporters in states Paul lost in the primaries or caucuses. Ron Paul didn't win a single contest outright, his best showing was New Hampshire were he received 23% of votes and came in second (Romney 39%)

revised Rule 16:
every state must mend its nominating process to ensure that their delegations are bound to vote in accordance with the winner of the popular vote as cast at state caucuses or in primaries

By the way, Obama used the delegate nominating process to steal delegates from Hillary in 2008 at the Democratic convention

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Do you have any commentary on WHY the rules were adopted?

Of course, it's to stop long shots and outsiders from getting any time at the convention. It's to put the power back in the hands of those with money instead of those with dedicated hard working supporters.
However, the rules aren't really for the party insiders because those people don't need to follow their own rules which they violated by throwing party money at Romney before he officially won the nomination and which they further did but ignoring their own procedures while adopting the rules. There wasn't even a vote (the teleprompter already had the scripted outcome written in before the vote happened. How is that right?)

 

[redrumloa]

My point is you do not change the game, at the end of the game. There was no vote either. If you watched the video it clearly sounded like the NO's were louder, but the Teleprompter said otherwise. We don't have Democrats, Republicans or a real president anymore. We have Mr. Teleprompter controling us.

It is very obvious what the rule change was to do, which was to keep Ron Paul out of the convention. This has become clear to many people, not just Ron Paul fans like myself.

 

[cecilia]

I was waiting to board my plane home from the 2012 RNC when a fellow Ron Paul supporter approached me by the name of Jackie Gloor. Jackie claims bullets were planted in her luggage; listen to her incredible story.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

she was lucky it wasn't a horses head in her bed.

 

[cecilia]

 

[cecilia]

you guys in Europe and Canada already know this stuff

 

[cecilia]

Jon Stewart Basks In The Glory Of Clint Eastwood’s ‘Awesome’ Speech






just go right to the video

 

[metalman]

Clint Eastwood's riff was pretty funny

While funny to Republicans, the target audience were Independents who emotionally voted for Obama in 2008, making a case for dumping Obama.

“politicians are employees of ours… And when somebody does not do the job, we got to let ‘em go.”
“we don’t have to be mental masochists and vote for somebody that we don’t really even want in office, just because they seem to be nice guys, or maybe not so nice guys if you look at some of the recent ads going out there.”

and Eastwood certainly hit a nerve

Obama even tweeted a reply

AFSCME President Lee Saunders screamed at an empty chair he brought on stage with him. Then he kicked his “Eastwood” chair off stage in Charlotte at a speech in front of the Ohio delegation.