65mpg, available in November & it's a Ford!!

Wayne said:
redrumloa said:
Ford = idiots
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While I agree with your statement, it's not ALL Ford this time, but the treehugger's clean air crap and it's requirements on diesel engines that are to blame here. They can't import it because it doesn't meet those emission standards.

Wayne
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Actually not entirely correct (although there is certainly some truth in what you say). Prior to CY2009 most diesel motors in the US could not pass all 50 states emissions standards (namely California and New York whose markets are huge). With the introduction of the BlueTec and Urea based systems this is no longer a problem. VW and Mercedes are beginning to sell the "50 state" diesels.

The real problem is two fold...(IMO)

1. US car manufacturers (including Ford) do not believe that diesel is the way to go. They have (I believe) mistakenly put all of their money into hybrids and are not set up to either sell or produce "50 state" diesels. *IF* they wanted to sell the European Ford, as other have pointed out, it would be too expensive for the US market.

2. Diesel fuel production and pricing in the country is rediculous.

In any event, don't look for a US auto manufacturer to be pushing efficient diesel vehicles for the masses anytime soon. :-( But all the better for VW and Mercedes. :-)

Regards,
Ltstanfo
 
Wayne said:
redrumloa said:
Ford = idiots
Click to expand...
While I agree with your statement, it's not ALL Ford this time, but the treehugger's clean air crap and it's requirements on diesel engines that are to blame here. They can't import it because it doesn't meet those emission standards.

Wayne
Click to expand...

Actually not entirely correct (although there is certainly some truth in what you say). Prior to CY2009 most diesel motors in the US could not pass all 50 states emissions standards (namely California and New York whose markets are huge). With the introduction of the BlueTec and Urea based systems this is no longer a problem. VW and Mercedes are beginning to sell the "50 state" diesels.

The real problem is two fold...(IMO)

1. US car manufacturers (including Ford) do not believe that diesel is the way to go. They have (I believe) mistakenly put all of their money into hybrids and are not set up to either sell or produce "50 state" diesels. *IF* they wanted to sell the European Ford, as other have pointed out, it would be too expensive for the US market.

2. Diesel fuel production and pricing in the country is rediculous.

In any event, don't look for a US auto manufacturer to be pushing efficient diesel vehicles for the masses anytime soon. :-( But all the better for VW and Mercedes. :-)

Regards,
Ltstanfo
 
They are now using Adblu (Urea) on cars ?

We use it on our trucks but it's a separate tank... Cant see joe public paying an arm & leg to fill up with diesel then having to sell their right kidney to fill up with Adblu (it's expensive)
 
They are now using Adblu (Urea) on cars ?

We use it on our trucks but it's a separate tank... Cant see joe public paying an arm & leg to fill up with diesel then having to sell their right kidney to fill up with Adblu (it's expensive)
 
They are now using Adblu (Urea) on cars ?

We use it on our trucks but it's a separate tank... Cant see joe public paying an arm & leg to fill up with diesel then having to sell their right kidney to fill up with Adblu (it's expensive)
 
They are now using Adblu (Urea) on cars ?

We use it on our trucks but it's a separate tank... Cant see joe public paying an arm & leg to fill up with diesel then having to sell their right kidney to fill up with Adblu (it's expensive)
 
They are now using Adblu (Urea) on cars ?

We use it on our trucks but it's a separate tank... Cant see joe public paying an arm & leg to fill up with diesel then having to sell their right kidney to fill up with Adblu (it's expensive)
 
They are now using Adblu (Urea) on cars ?

We use it on our trucks but it's a separate tank... Cant see joe public paying an arm & leg to fill up with diesel then having to sell their right kidney to fill up with Adblu (it's expensive)
 
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