Just put yourself there. You'll get emotional - see it or not. There';s no footage of most air disasters but you can't recreate the horror and empathize with the people with the slightest effort?
Of course you can, but it's not the same. If fantasy is all we needed no one would bother making porn as it would be useless. See just one person jumping off the WTC and it's an all new ball game because that's an image you can't erase from your mind, never mind forget - and that's an image I've seen only that day. And now that I think of it, this kinda blows your little theory about media manipulation out of the water too, as it's the images that have been buried by he mainstream press that have stayed with me the longest.
And we didn't see 3000 people die on TV and we didn't know them or anything about them until we were lead to it by the media.
We had no idea how many people died at the time, and the numbers didn't matter as far as I'm concerned. As for the media leading us, well I think that's complete nonsense. The people demanded to see everything there was to see about the WTC. You're telling me you'd have rather watched the Simpsons? It's comments like this that expose how you view others - that we're nothing but dumb "sheeple" lead oh so easily. Not one original thought in our brains, all planted there by "the man" and his news media.
This is what makes it hard for you to read the article for what it says, I guess. People get stuck on - you didn't feel enough about the people so nothing else counts.
What the article is? A quick shot at fame perhaps? Nothing like a bit of controversy to get people reading - pretty handy for someone who makes his living off what he writes. Potvin has his reasons for writing that.
Come on Mike. How old are you? Do you still cry every time you scrape your knee? Or - wait, maybe you just haven't seen people getting killed enough "on TV".
Um, no, but I have been a witness to an actual murder. Someone did die in front of my eyes at the hands of another and I was unable to do anything. I also saw a guy get his brains splattered on the street when a car hit him. I can't say I felt great about either. Not sure how either event has changed me. How many people must I see die before I gain the clarity to see through all the horror and to focus on the great powers lurking in the shadows that pull the strings?
Yes, when they get quietly killed away from our sensitive eyes - that's different. You never saw the footage of the Hiroshima bomb?
Well, you're talking to someone who has a morbid curiosity about all things war. I HAVE thought about the dead at Hiroshima. Same goes for those who burned to death in a tank or drowned in a submarine. But this is all tangential, side tracking what started this thread. We're talking about someone who felt happy, not sadness, when two large buildings full of people were destroyed. The problem is he saw American imperialism collapsing, not the people faced with a dilemma of burning or jumping. Fact is he had no idea of how many died at the time, but it also seems he didn't care. His first thought was about his own political agenda. To me, this defines the person and tells me how he thinks.
I admit that my experience of the event was coloured by my experience of the preceding decade, and what I had learned those symbols to mean. If you didn't have that perspective then you couldn't have seen it that way. Fair enough.
Well, I certainly hadn't been brainwashed by far left groups if that's what you mean. Nope. But I am perhaps one of the few Westerners who had a good idea of who Osama bin Ladden was BEFORE 9/11 and also knew about Ahmad Shah Massoud's assassination on Sept 9, 2001 (an event that at the time I felt was tragic).
But it's not that he says he felt joy at the buildings going down.
But it is precisely that.
Do you feel joy when the team you support beats the guys they're up against just because you enjoy thinking about how much dissapointment those guys are feeling - or because the guys you support won?
So what team do you see yourself on? I'll tell you one thing, you're not on the team that brought down those towers. So why would you be pleased by their destruction? If anything, you should have seen what their destruction would lead to: diminished rights and needless wars. The only ones that should have felt any happiness from the WTC attacks are the war mongers.
It baffles me so I admit to suspecting that people just pretend they can't do it for appearances sake - so that other people won't rag on them for being "cold".
It's lack of empathy - one of the criteria for Antisocial personality disorder.
