Amiga

Robert said:
Yeesh - I actually started putting money aside for an AmiJoe, I was that taken in by the hype.

I remember seeing the Walker mock up as well and thinking it looked cool. Deary me.
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I like the Walker when it was first pictured, I liked the idea of adding slices to it to add PCI slots. AmiJoe's problem was two fold. First it was a side project of an engineer at PIOS/Met@Box that the company was going to do large scale production on. Second it was a side project of an engineer at PIOS/Met@Box that was done at home and didn't have the proper oversight a normal project would have gotten to reveal the memory bandwidth flaw that would require a redesign.
 
faethor said:
Hardware shouldn't matter, PPC or not. Millions if not billions of virtual computers are running around the world. Even phones are running virtual machines. Turn the Amiga hardware into a virtual machine, yes UAE, and work on updating the OS on that hardware base. One can assume that virtual machine will be more powerful than the original hardware and therefore one can update the OS to take advantage of the extra power, memory, and storage. Hardware is a commodity item. Charging twice as much for half as much power isn't going to fly. Instead focus the time and money on the OS and software layer.
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I kinda agree, the focus should have always been on the software, and the best way to do that would have been to just stick to mainstream hardware (ie. intel). If Amiga was ported from 680x0 to Intel instead of PPC, it would have had a better chance at wide adoption. WinUAE was always an option, not a very good one but still better then the expensive PPC options. I hoped AROS would become more popular but that kinda fizzled as well. Still, relegating an entire platform to emulation is kinda blah. Even Java/.NET make use of JIT compiling to machine code for performance, and for VMWare to really work nicely they use special CPU instructions to speed it up. And that probably only works when emulating intel machine code. And there are plenty of reasons to move away from the 680x0 as it's just so out dated. No matter how good the emulator might be, 680x0 never had MMX/SSE/Altivec/etc, not to mention some of the other newer instruction sets, so we'd end up writing more 680x0 code to do stuff the slow way, and then emulate it as well.
 
Robert said:
Yeesh - I actually started putting money aside for an AmiJoe, I was that taken in by the hype.

I remember seeing the Walker mock up as well and thinking it looked cool. Deary me.
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Unbeliever. It exists. Not just a mock-up :p.
 
Speelgoedmannetje said:
I dunno, it's that they stole an amiga fanart picture that I'm not really convinced of their intentions...
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It was more of a spoof web site in order to find out who really owned the C= IP. You can judge C=USA back then, but it's turned into a real company since then shipping real products. By the end of the year, you should be able to clearly see what C=USA has been up to.
 
Dammy said:
It was more of a spoof web site in order to find out who really owned the C= IP. You can judge C=USA back then, but it's turned into a real company since then shipping real products. By the end of the year, you should be able to clearly see what C=USA has been up to.
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Must you bring CUSA into everything? lol :watching::)
 
CUSA is just as Amiga as anything else on offer atm:thumbs up:
 
Dammy said:
It was more of a spoof web site in order to find out who really owned the C= IP. You can judge C=USA back then, but it's turned into a real company since then shipping real products. By the end of the year, you should be able to clearly see what C=USA has been up to.
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Shipping products they may be, but threatening OSNews as well as Barrys general douchebaggery are still very much in my mind, regardless of their fast and loose handling of other peoples IP.
 
Dammy said:
He's just pulling my leg is all. :lol:
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Correct netiquette dictates that the smiley that proceeded the statement tells me so, I just wanted an opportunity to be quoted again :lol:
 
Man. My first Amiga. I'd hit the Dean's List in the first semester of college, and my pop wanted to buy me a new computer (I had a C128) to celebrate. I'd lusted after an Amiga for the longest time so we gathered up and went out to a computer store (hi, Chuck Joslin) and because he (Chuck) was too busy talking to some beardo dad and I ended up spending what seemed like an eternity discussing the merits of various systems before getting any help.

Oh I could kick myself in retrospect. Pop offered to buy me an A2000 with a 1084s but my conscience wouldn't let him spend $2k on a computer for me, so I demurred and went for the unexpanded A500 x-(

Still, had some fun with the '500. Ended up getting an AdSpeed, a couple more megs of RAM via a Supra RAM sidecar (the narrow one that took ZIP memory), external drive and had to have the CIAs replaced.

Then came the A1200 - that was stock and disappointingly slower at first. Then someone kindly gave me a DKB 28mhz 030 card, I blew a whole paycheck on $189 worth of a single 4mb SIMM, and either just before or just after purchased my first hard-drive, a 60mb Seagate! I kept that setup for about a year and a half or two...somewhere along the way I got a 1084s and immediately ran a mode-hack to run it in 640x400 flicker free (although it dimmed the monitor and I lost like 8px along the bottom edge - the mode-hack is probably on aminet, check it out)...

Sold it and went PC when C= went bust, never looked back.

Ah, here we go: http://nl.aminet.net/docs/hard/15khzhack.txt

Part of the reason I left was at the time, the PC seemed (shock, horror!) less "Hacky" - of course, little did I know...
 
Karlos said:
Hobbyist platform? Same as it's past for the best part of the last two decades.
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IMO, it all depends on future sales. If there is a significant number of Amiga systems sold, that is where the future will lead to.
 
Dammy said:
IMO, it all depends on future sales. If there is a significant number of Amiga systems sold, that is where the future will lead to.
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I admire your optimism on that front, but in order to have significant sales, something has to differentiate it from regular PC's that will encourage people to buy, other than basic novelty/nostalgia (which would bring it back to hobbyist users again).
 
Karlos said:
I admire your optimism on that front, but in order to have significant sales, something has to differentiate it from regular PC's that will encourage people to buy, other than basic novelty/nostalgia (which would bring it back to hobbyist users again).
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Absolutely correct.
 
Dammy said:
IMO, it all depends on future sales. If there is a significant number of Amiga systems sold, that is where the future will lead to.
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I think Karlos was talking about hobby computers whereas you are talking about mass production commodity pc's. Big difference.
 
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