Anchorage has set a record for the Longest Snow Season on Record at 231 days!

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Anchorage has set a record for the Longest Snow Season on Record at 231 days! The National Weather Service measured 2/10ths of an inch just after 9 pm. If they measure another 1/10th tomorrow, the record will be 232 days! Last year it was a snowfall record..this year, it sets a record for sticking around! At least now the record is here and....lets get on with SPRING!
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From an Anchorage news channel on Facebook feed, sorry no link.
 
Indeed a strange winter. Last year the Jet stream didn't leave Canada making it one of the warmest ever. This year the Jet Stream went far south and stayed longer. As for MN last Sat, 5/11, we had 25 degrees and a bit of snow. Then Tue we hit over 100 for the earliest day ever that warm.

Did you see this News is not keeping up with science
 
the reality deniers don't seem to understand that climate change is about EXTREMES - and even regular people have noticed that
 
I threw a snowball today.

Admittedly, I was on a mountain top at the time.
 
metalman said:
Every year since 1917, people have bet on the exact time of the Tanana river ice breakup in Alaska, with the winner taking the pot. The 2013 pot is $318,500 …
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Thanks. That was a cool data set. So I copied the table, converted into day of the year of breakup for
each year (accounting for leap years) and sorted the dates. Opened the rearranged data in a spreadsheet and charted it. Threw in a trend line just for fun. Got this:
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FluffyMcDeath said:
Thanks. That was a cool data set. So I copied the table, converted into day of the year of breakup for each year (accounting for leap years) and sorted the dates. Opened the rearranged data in a spreadsheet and charted it. Threw in a trend line just for fun. Got this:
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it is a very good proxy to identify the PDO cycle ;) (about 20 years +/-)

Pacific Decadal Oscillation has both a linear and a cyclic component

your linear trend line excludes this years date, which will at least match the record for latest breakup date

and if you really want to be really precise, you need to adjust for both leap year and exact time of vernal equinox to get the astronomical time elapsed
 
 
metalman said:
and if you really want to be really precise, you need to adjust for both leap year and exact time of vernal equinox to get the astronomical time elapsed
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Yeah, but since I didn't bother with the hour of the breakup it's hardly worth the effort, but you can give it a go if you think it'll make much difference.
 
@Metalman,

Besides the ice out dates I'd like to see the ice 'in' dates. The trend line clearly indicates that ices are earlier each year, one can assume it was warmer comparing dates to dates. But, what of that season overall? Perhaps winter is shifting a few days earlier as well, and thus, there may be no real change. And instead it's a seasonality shifting off a few days.

For example: For my speck of the globe the University of Minnesota Climatology lab has their winter trend documented as increasing in temperature and decreasing in length. What they have is not only earlier ice out dates but later snowfall dates. And of course, along with the measured temps. This year we had one of the top 10 latest ice outs. But, we also saw the earliest day of above 100 temps. It seems we're giving Spring a year off and went right into summer.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Yeah, but since I didn't bother with the hour of the breakup it's hardly worth the effort, but you can give it a go if you think it'll make much difference.
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hour only makes a difference if you want to enter the betting pool, days can be statistically projected, then the hour just based on what hour of the day the river broke in the past, would say its more likely to happen on a warm day between 11 am and 6pm AST, then at night

Only about 1,800 tickets remain in play for the Ice Classic jackpot, and about 300 of those are for Monday
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metalman said:
hour only makes a difference if you want to enter the betting pool,
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I was responding to your suggestion that I account for astronomical time - which would shift the year to year time by several hours. Since I wasn't calculating the resolution down to hours using the hours where given I didn't bother with the hour adjustment for astronomical time. Here you say the hours make no difference unless you are betting so why did you mention it in the first place?
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Yeah, but since I didn't bother with the hour of the breakup it's hardly worth the effort, but you can give it a go if you think it'll make much difference.
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AKST

6 to 9 am……….3 occurrences
9 am to noon…21
noon to 3 pm…24
3 pm to 6 pm…21
6 pm to 9 pm…15
9 pm to midnight…8
midnight to 3 am…3
3 am to 6 am…..1
 
Major temperature dip here again overnight. Snow returns to the highlands and we're looking at the coldest spring on record. Perhaps "The day after Tomorrow" was right after all. :eek:
 
Robert said:
Major temperature dip here again overnight. Snow returns to the highlands and we're looking at the coldest spring on record. Perhaps "The day after Tomorrow" was right after all. :eek:
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Or just maybe the global warming alarmist are wrong? Don't forget the proclamation that "our kids just won't know what snow is".
 
let me ONCE again repeat:

EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES
 
cecilia said:
let me ONCE again repeat:

EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES EXTREMES
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There have always been extremes, always will be. The highest recorded temperature in Fort Lauderdale was 99° in 1980 and the lowest recorded temperature was a very 28° in 1977.
 
the problem is the extremes are becoming the norm
 
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