At least 14 people stabbed on college campus in Texas

redrumloa

redrumloa

Active Member
Moderator
Joined
Apr 2, 2005
Messages
14,970
Reaction score
2,154
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/ne...14-people-stabbed-on-college-campus-in-texas/

At least 14 people were stabbed on Tuesday on the Cy-Fair campus of Lone Star College in Cypress, Texas, and local authorities say they have one person in custody in connection with the attacks.
Four of the victims with serious injuries were transported in helicopters and ambulances to nearby medical centers and the campus remains closed and is being evacuated, the Harris County Sheriff's Office said.
One person was arrested in connection with the incident, according to the sheriff's office.
College authorities said that there is another suspect who is still at large, but the sheriff's office denied that version.
The college posted on its Web page a notice telling students to stay away from the campus where the stabbings occurred.
The incident comes two months after a shootout left three people injured on another Lone Star campus north of Houston.
Click to expand...
 
yeah... that whole death penalty as a deterrent is seeming really flawed right about now....
 
robert l. bentham said:
yeah... that whole death penalty as a deterrent is seeming really flawed right about now....
Click to expand...

Knife control! National Knife Registry and waiting period! No one needs a steak knife, plastic butter knives only!
 
Thread to morph into gun control in 3... 2...

-EDIT-

Seems it already had.
 
Robert said:
Thread to morph into gun control in 3... 2...
Click to expand...
Yeah Red beat you to it. He equivocated a very infrequent stabbing to the frequent shooting events we see in our nation.

The fact of the matter is knife stabbings are rare. Gun deaths are not. An unofficial tracking of gun deaths is seeing around 16 per day. Slate gun deaths and they aren't capturing all the data. Recent countings are worse. I'm guessing the self reporting rates are going dow. For example they have 1 shooting death tracked for 4/9. Perhaps that will change but MN saw more than 1 and there's 49 other States.

FBI Data shows that guns are involved in about 65% of all homicides in the USA. Knifes are minor in comparison. For suicides if someone uses a gun they are nearly 90% successful. Poisons/OD, cutting, and other types of attempts are much lower around 20% successful. (Sorry going by memory so no link there right now.)

With Red's logic we should outlaw toddlers, too.
4 year old kills Mom with his Police Dad's gun
4 year old kills self with stolen gun
4 year old kills 6 year old
4 year old loads and shoots his Mom with a shotgun

And if we look to Europe, where guns are outlawed, we find the rate of gun death to be very low. Actually we find knife deaths to be very low too. How low? US deaths from Guns exceed the deaths from knifes in Europe + Russia. WOW! There's something a miss in the USA since we actually lead the world in killing each other.

In this debate is the right-wingers say 'No guns at schools' don't prevent anything. Not so strangely Texas has the Death Penalty and that didn't prevent anything. States with Death Penalties tend to have higher rates of death and minorities are the dominant executions. See the right-wing believes the Gov is super broken. Their one exception is the Gov is perfect when it orders someone's death.
 
faethor said:
The fact of the matter is knife stabbings are rare. Gun deaths are not.
Click to expand...

I don't even see that as particularly relevant. Stabbings are far more common than shootings in Scotland but that's hardly an argument for less gun control.

No more so than saying that since no one has been killed by a nuclear weapon for several decades, why not let anyone who can afford one have one?

Glibly equating guns to knives, as demonstrated above, is just as absurd.
 
Personally, I think the effectiveness of the knife vs the gun speaks for itself. I wish all spree killers chose a knife instead of a gun because there would be a lot fewer spree deaths. There's a reason they choose a firearm over a knife.

As for banning knifes, some are banned. I certainly can't walk around with a sword. Also, I can't walk around with a concealed switchblade either. In fact, switchblades are illegal here and I can't buy one at a store. So there is such a thing as knife control.
 
Robert said:
I don't even see that as particularly relevant.
Click to expand...
It can be relevant if the reason for the lopsided usage stats is due to effectiveness or criminal preference. I can easily argue that we shouldn't allow criminals their preferred tools for crime.
 
This probably wouldn't have happened if they were simply playing with knives: U.S. boy, 6, dies after being shot in head by 4-year-old playmate

The gun violence in the US is so bad the only way to deal with it I think is to simply start treating it as entertainment. Instead of being depressed over something like this, maybe we should just laugh at the stupid Americans who just can't help but shoot each other.
 
Glaucus said:
As for banning knifes, some are banned. I certainly can't walk around with a sword. Also, I can't walk around with a concealed switchblade either. In fact, switchblades are illegal here and I can't buy one at a store. So there is such a thing as knife control.
Click to expand...

Indeed - same over here.
 
Glaucus said:
I can easily argue that we shouldn't allow criminals their preferred tools for crime.
Click to expand...
I think it's already against the law to be a criminal and it's also against the law to commit a crime. I'm not sure how a law saying it's criminal to commit a crime while committing a crime will impact criminal behaviour.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
I think it's already against the law to be a criminal and it's also against the law to commit a crime. I'm not sure how a law saying it's criminal to commit a crime while committing a crime will impact criminal behaviour.
Click to expand...
Most crimes are crimes of opportunity. The idea is to push the crime further up the chain where it does less damage. In other words, make it illegal for one to arm themselves, thus they'll have far lesser opportunity to commit the more harmful crime. It's quite simple really. How many people get killed by hand grenade in the US? And what makes you think the answer to that isn't linked to the availability of hand grenades in the US?
 
Glaucus said:
How many people get killed by hand grenade in the US? And what makes you think the answer to that isn't linked to the availability of hand grenades in the US?
Click to expand...

You make the point I was trying to make much more elegantly.
 
Glaucus said:
Most crimes are crimes of opportunity. The idea is to push the crime further up the chain where it does less damage. In other words, make it illegal for one to arm themselves, thus they'll have far lesser opportunity to commit the more harmful crime. It's quite simple really. How many people get killed by hand grenade in the US? And what makes you think the answer to that isn't linked to the availability of hand grenades in the US?
Click to expand...
Elegant and interesting.

I think we can point back at guns for the example. How many people get killed by fully automatic weapons? And what makes you think the answer to that isn't linked to the non-availability because of outlawing fully automatic weapons in the US?
 
The problem with fully auto weapons is that gun manufacturers sell weapons that can be easily converted to fully auto. That plus large magazines are a deadly combination. However, I'm not sure what the numbers are to be honest, but I'm guessing it's greater than zero even though I'm not actually aware of any fully auto killings. I'm thinking it's overall fairly small when compared to other firearms.
 
@Glaucus,

It is a potential problem. I find it interesting that we haven't seen that happen in the real world. Semi-Autos that fire 155 rounds in less than 5 minutes can do enough damage.
 
faethor said:
@Glaucus,

It is a potential problem. I find it interesting that we haven't seen that happen in the real world. Semi-Autos that fire 155 rounds in less than 5 minutes can do enough damage.
Click to expand...
The fully-auto ban may not be all that interesting actually, the ban on hand grenades is probably more so. Why? Full auto sucks. It's great in movies and games, but no trained soldier would use fully-auto to kill. Aside from going through an entire clip in under 3 seconds, you'd probably either miss everyone or hit the same guy 10 times. Full auto is best suited for suppression fire, not killing. Unless you're talking about a mounted machine gun, a fully auto assault riffle isn't the best weapon for a spree killing unless all your victims are stuck in a small room with you and you got lots of ammo.

Of course, in the hands of a trained expert who understands burst firing, full auto can still be rather lethal.
 
Glaucus said:
How many people get killed by hand grenade in the US? And what makes you think the answer to that isn't linked to the availability of hand grenades in the US?
Click to expand...

On the other side of the river ...

Two more grenades were detonated in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas Monday evening, -- one near a local college -- killing one unidentified individual late Monday morning

A lone assailant threw the grenade into the crowded plaza late Saturday, the city official said. Eight adults and four children were wounded in the attack, which was captured by security cameras installed near city hall.

[url=http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2012/03/10-hurt-in-nuevo-laredo-walmart-grenade.html]10 unidentified individuals were wounded in a grenade attack at a Walmart store in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas Sunday night, according to Mexican news accounts.[/url]

[url=http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/07/1-dead-16-wounded-in-nuevo-laredo.html] grenade attack was reported late Monday night in Nuevo Laredo at the Benito Juarez sports complex located on the east side of the river, near the Parque Viveros and the Rio Grande streets, left 1 dead and 16 wounded [/url]

Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws in the world.
 
metalman said:
Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws in the world.
Click to expand...
True, but Mexico also has some of the strictest drug laws as well. Their problem is that they are very corrupt. Those grenades are stolen from their military, along with other bad ass weapons that are totally illegal everywhere.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top