Brexit!! Yeah, it's a thing now..

[FluffyMcDeath]

Only their first day but the Brexit Party are off to a flyer

https://twitter.com/x/status/1146727959799226368

She also compared herself to "the peasantry" which might not be quite as offensive but is equally ridiculous. It would difficult to find anyone in UK politics who is more "establishment" than Widdecombe.

Lammy's a twonk. Like black people are the only people who have ever been slaves. Black people kept slaves too. You don't get to own that particular grievance just because one of your ancestors might have been one.

 

[Robert]

Lammy's a twonk. Like black people are the only people who have ever been slaves. Black people kept slaves too. You don't get to own that particular grievance just because one of your ancestors might have been one.

I'm no fan of his either but it's interesting that's what you took from it.

 

[redrumloa]

I'm no fan of his either but it's interesting that's what you took from it.

But it is true, which is why current reparation hearings in the US are a farce. There were at times more Irish slaves in the US than African ones. Post-slavery more businesses were more likely to hire a black person than an Irish person. That's never discussed by the woke crowd.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

I'm no fan of his either but it's interesting that's what you took from it.

When someone says something admittedly kind of daft, the response shouldn't be to see if you can say something dafter - but when you are engaged in moral grandstanding / oneupmanship - that' often what happens. The "you can't say that because some people that looked a bit like me were slaves once" is like the supposed thermonuclear "Oh yeah? Well all my relatives were killed at Auschwitz under the scalpel of Josef Mengele" that's intended to win any discussion of who's got what worse. It's tiresome bollocks and, if you look at it, meaningless. It's an attempt to play other people's victim cards (especially those who are no longer around to play them for themselves).

 

[Robert]

Corbyn's changed his tune (sort of):
Corbyn says Labour will back Remain in new referendum

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Corbyn's changed his tune (sort of):
Corbyn says Labour will back Remain in new referendum

I guess if he doesn't they'll have to call him an anti-semite again.

 

[JoBBo]

I guess if he doesn't they'll have to call him an anti-semite again.

No, if he doesn't he will continue to lose votes left and right.

A whopping 48.11 % of people voting in the referendum rejected any kind of Brexit and 51.89 % voted in favor of some vague proposal for losening the relationship with the EU. Yet, until now, none of the two dominant parties representing a combined 82+ percent of people voting during the last general election in the UK has embraced those 48.11 percent of referendum voters and given them a voice.

Given that the Conservative Party has been in disarray for quite a while, it is remarkable but unsurprising how Labour has consistently failed to improve their poll numbers since Corbyn's non-committal stance regarding the Brexit issue is successfully alienating Remainers as well as Brexiteers.

Suggesting that Corbyn had to be coerced by shadowy figures into supporting another referendum is - frankly - stupid. Just look at the result of the recent local elections.

 

[Robert]

Given that the Conservative Party has been in disarray for quite a while, it is remarkable but unsurprising how Labour has consistently failed to improve their poll numbers..

It is also fairly depressing. Corbyn had a gaping, open goal but decided to ignore it for a very long time. Now he seems to have sort-of-noticed it but it may be too late.
And here we are, with the news cycle more interested in which of the two public school boys is best placed to not do anything meaningful and the approaching leave date largely ignored.

-EDIT-

A whopping 48.11 % of people voting in the referendum rejected any kind of Brexit and 51.89 % voted in favor of some vague proposal for losening the relationship with the EU. Yet, until now, none of the two dominant parties representing a combined 82+ percent of people voting during the last general election in the UK has embraced those 48.11 percent of referendum voters and given them a voice.

This is exactly what Corbyn (among various other incompetent buffoons) should have been articulating from the get-go.

Suggesting that Corbyn had to be coerced by shadowy figures into supporting another referendum is - frankly - stupid.

It also implies that supporting another referendum will put a stop to the anti-semitism claims, which is even more absurd.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

This is exactly what Corbyn (among various other incompetent buffoons) should have been articulating from the get-go.

The EU is not a left friendly institution. Corbyn's always been euroskeptic and not without good ideological reason. Of course he is in a bind. He has a bunch of neo-liberal party members from when Blaire lead the lurch to the right (erm third way) and they've not recovered yet, and he doesn't want Brexit to happen under the Tories because they'll just go sign the same or worse deal with the Americans. His main job is to drag his feet, throw sand in the gears and keep it from happening until he can win a general election and control the process.

 

[cecilia]

 

[metalman]

UK and US could enter a partial trade deal IMMEDIATELY after Brexit: Chancellor Sajid Javid and Donald Trump adviser John Bolton discuss pact that could come into effect on November 1
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rade-deal-come-effect-IMMEDIATELY-Brexit.html
'We have got fantastic opportunities to open that up. Actually the US market is growing very fast for the UK but they still ban Haggis for heaven's sake in the United States."

Why is haggis banned in the USA?

"No food for human consumption, whether made locally in the USA or imported from overseas, can contain sheep’s lung."

"food for human consumption" =/= haggis

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Why is haggis banned in the USA?

"No food for human consumption, whether made locally in the USA or imported from overseas, can contain sheep’s lung."

"food for human consumption" =/= haggis

But McSween does a version for export without lung, and Stahly make a tinned haggis in Alabama without lung.

 

[redrumloa]

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
Soros does want to change the world

Ringo Starr Voiced His Support On Brexit And Remainers Are Viciously Turning On Him

The reactions are what you'd expect.

 

[Robert]

Ringo Starr Voiced His Support On Brexit And Remainers Are Viciously Turning On Him

The reactions are what you'd expect.

This Ringo Starr? Surely he has too much to do?

Anyway, despite such hilariously vacuous distractions, there are a few things which might actually be of substance going on. A Scottish court has just ruled that Johnson broke the law and lied to the Queen when he shut down parliament.

All three first division judges have decided that the PM’s advice to the HM the Queen is justiciable, that it was motivated by the improper purpose of stymying parliament and that it, and what has followed from it, is unlawful.

Predictably, Farage is now bleating about judicial interference because a court ruled against the government. Mr Establishment, whining about what he calls the establishment because it ruled against the actual establishment.
And Johnson seems to be suggesting Scottish judges are biased against him (despite a Scottish judge ruling in favour of the establishment last week - this was an appeal which overturned it).
There will be another appeal on behalf of the government at the UK supreme court on Tuesday and I think they'll probably overturn this decision but we'll have to wait and see.
The fun times roll on.

-EDIT-
The Daily Mail never fails to oblige. On the bright side this type of stuff does tend to increase support for Scottish independence:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1172015270589870081

Meanwhile, some more evidence of the "Left Wing case for Brexit" has been emerging:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1171902086751166464

And:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1171856106882252802

On top of all that, some documents the government did not want released have revealed some more "Left Wing benefits" of no-deal Brexit labeled "Operation Yellowhammer" (no, I'm not making this up):

certain types of fresh food supply "will decrease" and "critical dependencies for the food chain" such as key ingredients "may be in shorter supply".

It says these factors would not lead to overall food shortages "but will reduce the availability and choice of products and will increase price, which could impact vulnerable groups".

The document also says low-income groups "will be disproportionately affected by any price rises in food and fuel".

Low income groups the worst affected? Yeah! That kind of talk makes us lefties feel all warm and fuzzy.

 

[cecilia]

in case anyone wants to "play" with this brexit thing you can now get a Boris MiniFig

 

[metalman]

Lammy's a twonk. Like black people are the only people who have ever been slaves. Black people kept slaves too. You don't get to own that particular grievance just because one of your ancestors might have been one.

Africa was and still is very tribal, tribes raided each other regularly
There is no animal husbandry in the Sub Sahara due to the tsetse fly
Almost all tribes in sub Sahara Africa practiced cannibalism in some form
Slave traders reported as they sailed from port to port, Africans wanted to buy their slaves, because they were better tasting then the local ones
More African slaves went to the Middle East than the America's, in the US former slaves are 15% of the current population, in the Middle East >1%, why the difference?
Middle Eastern Slaves were Eunuchs a/k/a Janissaries, Mamluks, or Clean Cut. The fatality rate on Clean Cut was 90%

 

[metalman]

The UK prepares for the hard Brexit

New Ban On Eating Dogs And Cats In UK Blocked By Government

 

[Robert]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1174292273238089729

 

[Robert]

A Scottish court has just ruled that Johnson broke the law and lied to the Queen when he shut down parliament.
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There will be another appeal on behalf of the government at the UK supreme court on Tuesday and I think they'll probably overturn this decision but we'll have to wait and see.
The fun times roll on.

I'm watching the judgement being delivered live. Not looking good for Boris so far. Lead judge is being rather scathing.
-EDIT-
Yup, she's just declared his advice to the Queen unlawful. Back when politics wasn't a flaming circus act, being found guilty of lying to the Queen would have left a PM no alternative but to resign. Nowadays? It'll probably be treated as some sort of triumph.

 

[Speelgoedmannetje]

I'm watching the judgement being delivered live. Not looking good for Boris so far. Lead judge is being rather scathing.
-EDIT-
Yup, she's just declared his advice to the Queen unlawful. Back when politics wasn't a flaming circus act, being found guilty of lying to the Queen would have left a PM no alternative but to resign. Nowadays? It'll probably be treated as some sort of triumph.

Isn't that treason? Shouldn't he be quartered and his limbs being put up for display on the London Bridge?