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Carter calls out racism against Obama
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faethor said:
re: topic, best to be said that Jimmy Carter points out the fact that Obama faces racism. The way it's written, sounds more like Carter is calling Obama a racist which certainly isn't true at all.
That being said, I totally agree with Carter. Most of the people staunchly against Obama are doing so -- whether they know/admit it or not - out of a sense of racism. I see it around me pretty much every day here, and with people I talk to in different regions of the country.
Very few people would ever willingly admit that's the reason, but it's about as transparent as the fact that I despise Bill Buck.
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Robert said:
I was going to reply to Wayne's post Robert but I think yours is more inline with how I want to reply.
I also don't see much in the way of racisim with respect to Obama. Does it exist somewhere? No doubt it does but I have a hard time believing it is a large / majority share issue with respect to our new President.
I also realize Wayne said "most people" which does not specifically mean me but for the record, my dislike and distrust of Obama has nothing to do with his skin color... rather it is who he chooses to associate with politically. I'm trying to figure out if that makes me a racist? :shocked:
What I believe is that most of the country is (thankfully) finally starting to see just who they put into office. All that (hype) "hope" and "change" (without definition) is finally beginning to sink in with "Joe public" and I don't think they like what is happening. Are they being influenced by pundits / lobbyists / talk show hosts on both sides? No doubt, but Obama's "political clout" is wearing out.
Just my opinion.
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Worse, you little anti-semite, you. :hammer: You probably celebrate Hitler's Bierkeller Putsch every year too, doncha - on November 9th or 11/9 or as the majority of the world (who use dd/mm/yyyy) knows it - 9/11 !ltstanfo said:
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I certainly wasn't trying to infer that anyone that I specifically know is a racist in any way, shape, or form. The people I spoke of specifically don't belong to this forum. I do speak to lots of different people who've let an occasional sentence or word slip which alleviates any doubt as to the source of their hatred. I'm certainly not pure in that accusation.
However, without excuse, I live in a society where such hatred has been the rule, not the exception for a few hundred years now, so getting over it is not a "flip of a switch" one-generation jump as the politically correct would like to force it to be. Luckily, everyone is at least trying to get better, but what bothers me is why?
Are people as a society trying on their own to become better people? Are they more likely just being trained to be politically correct and hide their true feelings? Or, have we come to the point where the politically correct hold such damaging clout in society that people live in fear of being publicly labeled a racist, bigot, or other hateful word?
Don't know. I'm not a sociologist. I just think more damage is being done by the politically correct trying to force people to repress their feelings than if people just got together in a cage match and worked it all out.
Now, all I lack in being labeled a true redneck here is the mere mention of the word NASCAR.
Wayne
However, without excuse, I live in a society where such hatred has been the rule, not the exception for a few hundred years now, so getting over it is not a "flip of a switch" one-generation jump as the politically correct would like to force it to be. Luckily, everyone is at least trying to get better, but what bothers me is why?
Are people as a society trying on their own to become better people? Are they more likely just being trained to be politically correct and hide their true feelings? Or, have we come to the point where the politically correct hold such damaging clout in society that people live in fear of being publicly labeled a racist, bigot, or other hateful word?
Don't know. I'm not a sociologist. I just think more damage is being done by the politically correct trying to force people to repress their feelings than if people just got together in a cage match and worked it all out.
Now, all I lack in being labeled a true redneck here is the mere mention of the word NASCAR.
Wayne
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it's subtle. and not every "objection" to Obama is racism.Robert said:
Americans have a really strange history of racism. Living here I have seen it like an alien from space. I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.
The huge uproar over Obama's encouraging children to stay in school and become useful members of society is nothing short of insane. Countless Presidents have done something similar and no one said a word about them. And I've seen children's reactions to Obama's talk - THEY got his message and were duly inspired. That was the only purpose of that talk.
When you see people reacting with SUCH venom and terror, I have to see that as racism.
and what about the nuts that are STILL insisting that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. Do they really think the State of Hawaii is lying about the birth certificate?
you could argue that they are insane rather than racist. I say, is there a difference?
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cecilia said:
Ahh yes, the birther movement.
They're like the troofers, only more credulous and that really does take some beating!
As to a difference... Racism is built on fear. Fears can be beaten and overcome. Wilful ignorance on the other hand is a much tougher nut to crack.
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Personally, I don't buy that there's much of a double standard going on here, the secret service isn't republican or democrat and if Bush wasn't happy with his protection he should have done something (although any conspiracy theorist should immediately wonder if Cheney intentionally lowered Bush's level of protection, um, purely to lower government spending of course...). Having said that, there already have been organized plots against Obama that were broken up and more are suspected. To my knowledge, there was never a real concerted effort to take out Bush despite all the protest posters. We should all know by now that the ones who are more likely to carry out these threats are the right wing nuts who think themselves as God's personal soldiers and shoot doctors who perform abortions and any other evil doers such as back socialist presidents.
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