Carter calls out racism against Obama

redrumloa said:
Oh yeah, don't forget Lincoln who was shot by a Democrat. Funny revisionist history that goes on here.

Using that label over the timespan between Lincoln and now is pretty much pointless. The political positions of the parties have changed significantly since then.

That the Democratic party tended to be the party of the south makes it likely that Boothe was a Democrat (I don't know for sure) it is virtually meaningless in this context. It is much more relevant to say that his loyalties lay with the Confederate.

This was a Federal / Confederate issue and more than Republican / Democrat and the assisination occurred in wartime. While several southern armies had surrendered then and the war was not yet over though it was clear by then that it very soon would be and the south the loser.

He was a man from the Confederate States (which included Alabama and Florida, of course) who killed the leader of the forces which were at war with his homeland.
 
redrumloa said:
redrumloa said:
DOH! Of course I know this, I meant Ford. I just posted too early before my coffee. Check the time stamp... My point is still valid of course.

Oh yeah, don't forget Lincoln who was shot by a Democrat. Funny revisionist history that goes on here.
Revisionist? Look, John Hinckley wasn't a democrat, he was a nut who wanted to be famous. He originally stalked Carter but just never had the chance to make his move until Reagan was president. And "Squeaky" was hardly what the Democrats would consider a model party member, far from it actually. The Charles Manson murders and murder attempts were not politically motivated.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
redrumloa said:
Oh yeah, don't forget Lincoln who was shot by a Democrat. Funny revisionist history that goes on here.

Using that label over the timespan between Lincoln and now is pretty much pointless. The political positions of the parties have changed significantly since then.

That the Democratic party tended to be the party of the south makes it likely that Boothe was a Democrat (I don't know for sure) it is virtually meaningless in this context. It is much more relevant to say that his loyalties lay with the Confederate.

This was a Federal / Confederate issue and more than Republican / Democrat and the assisination occurred in wartime. While several southern armies had surrendered then and the war was not yet over though it was clear by then that it very soon would be and the south the loser.

He was a man from the Confederate States (which included Alabama and Florida, of course) who killed the leader of the forces which were at war with his homeland.

The Ku Klux Klan has played a prominent role in the Democratic Party, acting as the Terrorist Arm of the Democrat Party”, targeting black & white Republicans
 
metalman said:
The Ku Klux Klan has played a prominent role in the Democratic Party, acting as the Terrorist Arm of the Democrat Party”, targeting black & white Republicans

Exactly, thank you. The party of the south that used to lynch blacks is now the party of the north that counts on the black vote to get in.

And today the party of Commie hunting Joe McCarthy proudly paints the states it holds RED on the electoral map.

Things sure do change.
 
metalman said:
The Ku Klux Klan has played a prominent role in the Democratic Party, acting as the Terrorist Arm of the Democrat Party”, targeting black & white Republicans
'has played' being the key to understanding.

Where are the parties now? We have one of the largest representations of blacks in the Congress. All of them are Democrats. Democrats are elected by overwhelming majorities of minorities.

The fate of the Republicans has been sealed since Nixon decided to gather the anti-black southerns against the White Democrats giving equal rights to minorities. Reagan put a knife in by combing the party with the crazy Christian coalition. We see conservaties, Dr.s for patient freedom, sending emails w/ the president dressed as a African witch doctor. We see the Republican Joe Wilson call the President a liar. Seemingly harmless. But, if one considers his membership in Sons of the Confederate, a group that backs sessionism and calls slavery benign, along with his votes to keep the Dixie flag flying, it's not hard to understand why some view his actions to contain racism. We see Republican mayors sending photos of the White House with a watermelon patch. I'm surprised he didn't take the extra time to photoshop shoe polish on the White House. Conservative talking heads (rush,beck) make their own racist comments. Republicans are elected by overwhelming numbers of old white men and scared "Christians".


The future of the USA is one where whites become the largest minority. If the Republican party continues to fail the minorities they will relagate themselves to the background until they figure it out. My bet was 5 more elections.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
metalman said:
The Ku Klux Klan has played a prominent role in the Democratic Party, acting as the Terrorist Arm of the Democrat Party”, targeting black & white Republicans

Exactly, thank you. The party of the south that used to lynch blacks is now the party of the north that counts on the black vote to get in.

Things sure do change.

Not really,

The current Democrat Senator, President pro tempore of the US Senate, was an ex-Democrat Terrorist KKK "Kleagle" recruiter and advisor to the Grand Imperial Wizard.

Still in office, still a Democrat
 
metalman said:
Not really,

The current Democrat Senator, President pro tempore of the US Senate, was an ex-Democrat Terrorist KKK "Kleagle" recruiter and advisor to the Grand Imperial Wizard.

Still in office, still a Democrat
Again note your case 'WAS' not IS.

Byrd has apologized over and over again for his association with the KKK. This doesn't excuse his past actions. But, as we see in more recent votes he appears to be politically supportive of minority causes. eg. Supports Gays in the Miltary, for one example. Again compare this to Joe Wilson who recently, not 50 years ago like Byrd, has actions relating to racist organizations.

Note the case on Wilson 'IS' not 'WAS'.

No one doubts that Democrat's history is one of exclusionary practices. The 60s and since changed this. There's little doubt that within society racism and exclusion is associated with the Republicans. You can argue that doing so may be wrong, and it may be. The fact remains that people view Republicans politically as exclusionary and against minorities. This is why we see minorities turn out in droves for Dems and but a blip on the Republican backing.

Republicans were surely founded as the anti-slavery party. Promoting minorities today is not a value voters associate in anyway with the Republican party. One can see why - women's rights, gay rights, healthcare -- minority values are all stances the Republicans say No. Tongue in cheek -- The party of 'Just say no to drugs' has become the party of 'Just say no'.

I don't know how old you are. Your stated history always seems to neglect the party realignment of the 1960s. Also you ignore Reagans wedding of Republicans and radical Christians in the 80s.
 
metalman said:
FluffyMcDeath said:
[...]The party of the south that used to lynch blacks is now the party of the north that counts on the black vote to get in.

Things sure do change.

[...]

The current Democrat Senator, President pro tempore of the US Senate, was an ex-Democrat Terrorist KKK "Kleagle" recruiter and advisor to the Grand Imperial Wizard.

Still in office, still a Democrat

To make your case of special pleading you had to go and point at the an old school Democrat from a confederate state. He's the oldest guy in the Congress and he's the longest serving Senator ever (since 1959). He joined the Klan in '42 and stopped paying his dues around '43 and was out shortly thereafter. He has since renounced the Klan and even that was decades ago. Basically, to make your case that the Democratic party is STILL the racist party of the south you had to point to ONE senator who has been in Congress since those days EVEN THOUGH he has changed his position almost 60 years ago.

You have tried to demonstrate a rule by leaning on an exception that doesn't even exist any more.
 
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