Caught "Red" Handed!

metalman said:


The GOP broadcasting corporation says that the Dems are due for a fall and are falling to pieces? Gosh - how utterly unsurprising. I'm not saying it might not be so, but your source is a joke (and in poor taste). A more reliable source please.

By the way - with voter turnout of only 57% for presidential elections (with the vote split almost 50-50) means that - it's pretty much it's true. About 70% of the American people didn't vote for this president. Let's hope even MORE disenfranchised Americans stay away from the polls next time too based on the assumption that voting makes no difference and then have them complain about not having a representative government.

The situation is even worse at midterms when a mere 38% or so bother to show up. Such a sad sack nation thinks that they can export "Democracy" around the world when they are such a bad example of it?
 
metalman said:
Carville is trying to find a message, to make the jackass seem like a racehorse, and people aren't buying it.
You seem to have not read the article when you say things like that.
 
That is interesting - and revealing. So when you tell people that you are working for the middle class they will vote for you. If you tell people that the other guys are working against the middle class they will vote for the other guy. This implies that people are stupid and can't comprehend what's being said. They seem, instead to be drawn to "action" so whoever is described as active, no matter what the activity is, they'll vote for them.

I think you got one part of the idea correct, but missed the rest. People ARE drawn to action right now. Everyone knows things are screwed. We're sick of hearing who to blame. I don't give a shit about who to blame. It's so far past the time to quibble over that, it's disgusting. Playing the blame card is a major turn-off. I don't think that can be understated.

The real problem is people are stuck believing there are only two viable parties in the system. So the Dems turn them off, they're back to the Republicans. People still aren't realizing that the only way to break the loop is to vote out both of the major parties. They'll only vote for a "viable" party. Well, the only way a new party gets viable is to VOTE FOR IT! Gah! It's such a simple concept, but it flies over so many heads.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
The GOP broadcasting corporation says that the Dems are due for a fall and are falling to pieces? Gosh - how utterly unsurprising. I'm not saying it might not be so, but your source is a joke (and in poor taste). A more reliable source please.

Florida Dems try to reaffirm support for Meek
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/sen ... t-for-meek

The campaign of Rep. Kendrick Meek (D-Fla.) is trying to put to rest rumors that the Democrat might drop out of Florida's Senate race.

The campaign featured Democratic heavyweight James Carville and the chairwoman of the Florida Democratic Party, Karen Thurman, on a conference call with reporters Tuesday in an attempt to show that state and national Dems remain committed to Meek.

Meek has remained stuck in third place in the Senate race since emerging from a tough Democratic primary in August. The latest Rasmussen poll in the race has Rubio (R) leading with 50 percent of the vote, followed by Crist (I) at 25 percent and Meek at 19 percent.

Crist the dirtbag isn't fooling anyone with his Independent bid, everyone knows he is a failed Republican. So look at it this way. The Republicans have 75% of the vote in this poll, followed by Democrats with 19%.

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Not that I care! I think anyone who wins is gosh darn good!
 
A very Fluffy statement:

"Let's hope even MORE disenfranchised Americans stay away from the polls next time too based on the assumption that voting makes no difference and then have them complain about not having a representative government."
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And seeing as how 59% of people voted in the last Canadian election, anyone could see how much better the turn out was in Canada. (59% Can vs 57% US) Especially since there were so many parties (18) to choose from in Canada. I guess that's why the ruling party got such a high % of the vote. (37.6%)

Isn't it great to have such a wonderful system? I love this Canadian math! :banana:
 
Fade said:
A very Fluffy statement:

"Let's hope even MORE disenfranchised Americans stay away from the polls next time too based on the assumption that voting makes no difference and then have them complain about not having a representative government."
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And seeing as how 59% of people voted in the last Canadian election, anyone could see how much better the turn out was in Canada. (59% Can vs 57% US) Especially since there were so many parties (18) to choose from in Canada. I guess that's why the ruling party got such a high % of the vote. (37.6%)

Isn't it great to have such a wonderful system? I love this Canadian math! :banana:

The Harper government seems to have discovered the secret of the American electoral system (another fine import from our southern cousins) to wit: depress the electorate so much they don't even bother to show up.

Historically, US turnout has always hovered around the high 50s whereas Canadian turnout was around the high 60s to low 70s ... until 2000 when the numbers started becoming more American. It is a disturbing sign that we have caught some of your malaise. Looks like you've been able to export some more democracy, this time to us, in exchange for our oil. Thank you so much.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
metalman said:
The GOP broadcasting corporation says that the Dems are due for a fall and are falling to pieces? Gosh - how utterly unsurprising. I'm not saying it might not be so, but your source is a joke (and in poor taste). A more reliable source please.

Interviewing a Democratic consultant about a poll conducted by a Democratic pollster is biased! :roflmao:
Caddell's prediction was made after the Missouri primary in August, so there has been plenty of time for one of your reliable MSNBC sources to make a prediction also.
 
metalman said:
Interviewing a Democratic consultant about a poll conducted by a Democratic pollster is biased! :roflmao:

Everybody knows what Fox News is. No politically savvy person goes on there without an agenda. (that goes for TV in general but no other newsertainment vendor has such a predicatable bias and such a specific political demographic). He may merely be disgruntled or maybe he isn't savvy at all (not much of a consultant then, is he) but Murdoch and Ailes would have been wetting themselves with delight.

The last Democratic campaign he was involved with was Jerry Brown in 1992. (remember Jerry Brown? Me neither.) Cadell left the Democratic Party in 1988 (22 years ago) after an acrimonious lawsuit with a Democratic consulting firm so he's not a real loyalist of the Democratic party. He is a frequent guest on Fox and that pretty much tells you who he works for now.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
The last Democratic campaign he was involved with was Jerry Brown in 1992. (remember Jerry Brown? Me neither.) Cadell left the Democratic Party in 1988 (22 years ago) after an acrimonious lawsuit with a Democratic consulting firm so he's not a real loyalist of the Democratic party.
Jerry Brown is currently the Attorney General of the state of California.
Jerry Brown vs Meg Whitman for Governor of California, its in the news now, at least it is on Fox.

There is no doubt Caddell is a disgruntled Democrat, but his prediction and analysis, made in August is proving quite accurate.

So provide a prediction and analysis of the coming election from your reputable news source and we'll see who had the closer prediction after the election.

I'm predicting election results similar to '94 .... 1894
 
metalman said:
its in the news now, at least it is on Fox.

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

"News."

:python:
 
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