driving science into a dark era

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Attacks paid for by big business are 'driving science into a dark era'
[Nina Fedoroff] confessed that she was now "scared to death" by the anti-science movement that was spreading, uncontrolled, across the US and the rest of the western world.

"We are sliding back into a dark era," she said. "And there seems little we can do about it. I am profoundly depressed at just how difficult it has become merely to get a realistic conversation started on issues such as climate change or genetically modified organisms."
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Too many people at the very top and within niche communities who won't be effected by the destruction they create are simply being left unopposed.

It begins and ends with education.
 
Previously the opponents of science plunged the earth into a period of religious lead ignorance. It was called the Dark Ages. Various scientific knowledge was lost, such as how to make concrete. It took us 1000 years to get that back. I see little reason why it couldn't happen again.
 
Dammy said:
Only with those blind fanatical followers of the one true faith, Global Warming. Rest of us are demanding hard evidence with full disclosure of how their models are coded and all modifications. Damn fanatics and their Global Warming religion.
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The problem appears to be the denialists inability to use a search engine. Data and models have been public source for many years. I'd be surprised if I havent posted links herE in the past. Here is one good page with a list of links to the models source code. http://www.easterbrook.ca/steve/?p=667
 
Dammy said:
Only with those blind fanatical followers of the one true faith, Global Warming. Rest of us are demanding hard evidence with full disclosure of how their models are coded and all modifications. Damn fanatics and their Global Warming religion.
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Even though we don't have the time to audit everything with the required rigour and depth and wouldn't understand most of that stuff anyway without putting in significant amounts of study (time which we would rather spend drinking beers, shooting guns, watching sports or just about any old crap on TV and - even though we don't actually want to - going to church so that our neighbours can see that we are church going) but when a bunch of people who are skeptical AND qualified get their hands on all of that stuff and look at it diligently they find they come to the same conclusions ---- so we ignore them like it never happened and go back to asking for the same thing over again.
 
faethor said:
Republican Inhofe claims Climate Change is unreal because the Bible says so.
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Inhofe​
: Well actually the Genesis 8:22 that I use in there is that ‘as long as the earth remains there will be seed time and harvest, cold and heat, winter and summer, day and night,’ my point is, God’s still up there. The arrogance of people to think that we, human beings, would be able to change what He is doing in the climate is to me outrageous.​
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Oh, well, I guess you can't argue with such razor-sharp logic. That's me convinced. ​
 
metalman said:
they reached a troubling conclusion: not only that retractions were rising at an alarming rate, but that retractions were just a manifestation of a much more profound problem — “a symptom of a dysfunctional scientific climate,”
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Scientists have been complaining about this for decades. I guess it's about time it came to the attention of the masses outside of the non-scientific community. The publish or die mentality that has possessed the MBAs that run Universities these days is hated by the average working scientist but it does provide ample opportunity for hacks to advance. Not all papers are put out by hacks but it gives the hacks an alternative to getting results.

There has also been a rise in cheating among students that has been partially blamed on increasing fees which makes failure more costly. When you have those kind of student loans to pay off you can't fail out to the food service sector - you need to get tenure.
 
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