Gaza

There's an Israeli official on my telly right now, doing the tried and tested, Israeli tactic of apologising for "the terrible mistake" of bombing something they promised they wouldn't bomb.

Twice.

Second time with six shells of white phosphorous.


They don't target civilians.
They don't target aid convoys.
They don't target the UN.

They must have the worst aim in the known world.


It's like 'Mars Attacks' with these murdering scumbags.
 
Mr. Olmert has just announced a 'cease fire'.
 
Robert said:
Mr. Olmert has just announced a 'cease fire'.

What they refered to on the CBC as a "unilateral truce". Of course, there is no such thing as a unilateral truce because is truce is between two parties. "Cease fire" is a more accurate term though.

This is a trick, of course. They are going to leave troops inside Gaza and they know that will invite attacks so they can continue bombing and blame Hamas again. Why is it bound to provoke a response? Because Israel wants it to. They will go house to house arresting people, they will conduct "targeted killings", they will set up road blocks and will create as much animosity as possible.

If Hamas does not respond then the provocations and situation in Gaza will simply get worse until they can't not react. It's a pretty good trap tactically because it is very hard to get out of it. If there is no reaction from Gaza then eventually the territory will simply become de facto Israel. The Gazans will be pushed into the sea fighting or they will walk into the sea at the point of a gun.
 
Seems that there are boycotts and they do hurt. Even in Turkey, an ally of Israel there are calls for boycotts. Then again, orders could just be down because of the world economy. Which is an important consideration. This may make it harder to acquire those big toys for blowing up babies.
 
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It just seems eerily familiar. Can't think what it reminds me of.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Seems that there are boycotts and they do hurt. Even in Turkey, an ally of Israel there are calls for boycotts. Then again, orders could just be down because of the world economy. Which is an important consideration. This may make it harder to acquire those big toys for blowing up babies.

Consumers Association of Turkey calls on Turkish citizens to boycott Israeli, US and British products by saying "We will not provide ammunition for siyonist Israel`s attacks".

Boycotts are a funny thing. I live in the UK. It would be rather impractical to boycott anything British.
Having said that, I tend to avoid Coca Cola products, although that has more to do with Colombia than Israel.

This may make it harder to acquire those big toys for blowing up babies.

Not if their big sugar daddy keeps giving them sweeties.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Robert said:
Mr. Olmert has just announced a 'cease fire'.

What they refered to on the CBC as a "unilateral truce". Of course, there is no such thing as a unilateral truce because is truce is between two parties. "Cease fire" is a more accurate term though.

Hamas have just declared a 'cease fire' too, giving Israel one week to withdraw and open border crossings.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 836205.stm


You also have to laugh at the one-sided coverage regarding weaponry. 'International community in agreement on the need to stop Hamas re-arming'. No one ever points out the elephant in the room. Namely the huge military budget of Israel.

Here's a novel idea, let's give Hamas the same equipment as the Israelis - including the 200-odd nukes - we'd see a less one sided slaughter then, I imagine.
 
Robert said:
This may make it harder to acquire those big toys for blowing up babies.

Not if their big sugar daddy keeps giving them sweeties.

It wasn't totally clear the way I said it but I intended that last comment to be in relation to the slow down in the world economy, which is impacting sugar daddy. He may find himself having to sell weapons for income rather than just giving them away.
 
Robert said:
Hamas have just declared a 'cease fire' too, giving Israel one week to withdraw and open border crossings.
Ballsy. It's an invitation to have your bluff called and with the PR machine the way it is, it's only Israel's ceasefire that matters so any refusal of Israel to leave that results in Hamas firing on the IDF would be "a breach of the ceasefire" but there'll be no mention that the ceasefire breached was unilateral. The only party that can technically breach a unilateral ceasefire is the party that declared it.

Here's a novel idea, let's give Hamas the same equipment as the Israelis - including the 200-odd nukes - we'd see a less one sided slaughter then, I imagine.

Hamas would never have used suicide bombers if they had weapons on a par with Israel. There would be far more dead Jews but there wouldn't be any "terrorism". Plus the dispute would have been settled decades ago if both sides could inflict the same damage that only one side can manage today.
 
Very in depth piece from Noam Chomsky:
http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/20316

Eban's justification for state terror is regarded as persuasive by respected authorities. As the current US-Israel assault raged, Times columnist Thomas Friedman explained that Israel's tactics both in the current attack and in its invasion of Lebanon in 2006 are based on the sound principle of "trying to `educate' Hamas, by inflicting a heavy death toll on Hamas militants and heavy pain on the Gaza population." That makes sense on pragmatic grounds, as it did in Lebanon, where "the only long-term source of deterrence was to exact enough pain on the civilians -- the families and employers of the militants -- to restrain Hezbollah in the future." And by similar logic, bin Laden's effort to "educate" Americans on 9/11 was highly praiseworthy, as were the Nazi attacks on Lidice and Oradour, Putin's destruction of Grozny, and other notable attempts at "education."

I also had the dubious pleasure of watching the odious, low-life, arguably-anti-Semite Mark Regev, shouting at a Ch4 News presenter last night, trying to defend the illegal use of white phosphorous, among other things.
 
George Galloway: "Tony Blair will be remembered by posterity, if he's remembered at all, for having strapped himself in the back seat of a car driven by a drunken frat boy who drove straight away off a cliff and they haven't hit bottom yet."

:lol: :lol:
 
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