Global warming report for Thursday, December 20, 2012

cecilia said:
bummer....I think many people don't understand that this climate change means EXTREMES result....and we have plenty of examples of that
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Every Spring its Global Warming
Every Fall its Climate Change
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Unless you're Australian.
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For the southern hemisphere, seasons follow the sequence:
  • Summer: December to February
  • Autumn: March to May
  • Winter: June to August
  • Spring: September to November
So, Even in Australia its true
 
metalman said:
For the southern hemisphere, seasons follow the sequence:
  • Summer: December to February
  • Autumn: March to May
  • Winter: June to August
  • Spring: September to November
So, Even in Australiaits true
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But, when it is getting hotter here it is getting cooler there and vice versa - seasons are a change in heat distribution rather than heat.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
But, when it is getting hotter here it is getting cooler there and vice versa - seasons are a change in heat distribution rather than heat.
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Global Warming is an increase in the global annual average heat content measured in Joules.
Climate Change is any multi-decadal or longer alteration in one or more physical, chemical and/or biological components of the climate system.

Climate change currently is, and always has been occurring,
Global Warming has occurred may times in the geological past, when an ice age ends you then have a period of Global Warming, we are currently in the Holocene epoch, an interglacial period in the current ice age, which started 11500 years ago.
 
So, say we're in a natural cycle of global warming and we know that this will be detrimental to many people. Shouldn't we try to find ways to minimise effects?
 
Robert said:
So, say we're in a natural cycle of global warming and we know that this will be detrimental to many people. Shouldn't we try to find ways to minimize effects?
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WHAT!?!?!

solve problems using one's intellect?? Be compassionate to our fellow human beings, not to mention the other living things on this planet??!?!?!?

don't be silly....haven't you heard?

their 'god' will save them :rolleyes:
 
Robert said:
So, say we're in a natural cycle of global warming and we know that this will be detrimental to many people. Shouldn't we try to find ways to minimise effects?
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No, straw man.
 
Robert said:
So, say we're in a natural cycle of global warming and we know that this will be detrimental to many people. Shouldn't we try to find ways to minimise effects?
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I like this hypothetical. Though I'd extend it not only to people but everything on Earth.

Certain climate change effects may be more detrimental to life on the planet. Not only is there a rate of Climate Change there's a rate at which species can change (aka evolve). Simple creatures seem to be able to evolve faster. In experiments it appears that bacteria could live on Mars. It could evolve at a sufficiently fast enough rate to adapt to the conditions. We haven't tried a puppy yet but I think that experiment would show the puppy is going to have a very bad time trying to live unprotected on the Martian surface.

Changing the environment too fast can be bad for plants and animals. Within the animal food chain there appears certain lynch pins of interdependence. If a predator doesn't exist or sufficient food doesn't exist we'll see radical change. (For example, Zebra Mussels didn't live in the US lakes and rivers. The results is they'll filter the water too fast starving out not only other shells but fish as well. )

What we humans have decided is we have a responsibility not only to each other but, in general, to life itself. We replant forests, try to minimize invasive species, breed and improve the conditions for endangered species, and clean up pollution in all forms. Even to the extent that we can, and sometimes do, make things better than when we found it.

I think this question is a good start but again expand it to the Earth. The Earth is unique, as we know it today, is the only place life, especially intelligent life, exists. The universe seems stacked against life. Because we're the predominate knowledgeable creature and can have the major impact on the planet is there a responsibility to monitor earth's environmental systems and ensure we're sustaining this uniqueness as well as possible?
 
Robert said:
So, say we're in a natural cycle of global warming and we know that this will be detrimental to many people. Shouldn't we try to find ways to minimise effects?
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Sure! Great idea!

Lets just drill and detonate some underground nukes under some volcano!

say Tambora

Instant Global Cooling!

"The eruption caused global climate anomalies that included the phenomenon known as "volcanic winter": 1816 became known as the "Year Without a Summer" because of the effect on North American and European weather. Crops failed and livestock died in much of the Northern Hemisphere, resulting in the worst famine of the 19th century"


or even Toba

"the largest known explosive eruption anywhere on Earth in the last 25 million years. the eruption of Toba led to a volcanic winter with a worldwide decline in temperatures between 3 to 5 °C (5 to 9 °F), and up to 15 °C (27 °F) in higher latitudes. Greenland ice cores record a pulse of starkly reduced levels of organic carbon sequestration. Very few plants or animals in southeast Asia would have survived, and it is possible that the eruption caused a planet-wide die-off."
 
metalman said:
Sure! Great idea!

Lets just drill and detonate some underground nukes under some volcano!
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Whenever I get grumpy at the idiots in charge you always come along and remind me that it could be worse. Thanks.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Whenever I get grumpy at the idiots in charge you always come along and remind me that it could be worse. Thanks.
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Your given a simple, feasible solution to return Canada to its pristine conditions, as existed 12000 years ago, and instantly stop global warming, and yet you STILL complain :rolleyes:
 
faethor said:
@Metalman,
Don't forget that Volcanic impact on the Little Ice Age. It appears volcanos were a significant factor into the cooling period.
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I would bet that volcanism was the factor in all the geological cooling periods. At many times the volcanism was massive, so there was probably a Asteroid or comet impact that triggered a shift in plate tectonics, setting off a ripple effect of volcanism for millions of years afterwards.

An asteroid 30 kilometres across smashed into Greenland three billion years ago, creating a crater that was once 25 kilometres deep and 600 kilometres wide.
 
One can find the AP article from many sources. I quoted the Fox News one because sometimes certain Whyzzat members refuse to read anything that doesn't come from their own cherry picked source of news in the world. ;) Had this come from Huffpo, for example, they throw up their defensiveness claiming political bias before they even take the time to consider.
 
obviously murdoch is losing his grip on faux news
 
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