GOP to permit employers to deny contraception

[faethor]

You have a short memory, Viagara was not originally covered and law suits had to be brought to bare on the insurance companies since they offered female hormone replacement in their coverage.

My comment was in line with the court case being discussed. I see nothing on the link with the type of info you charge. Now you may well be right but you simply have the wrong court case.

You lived in CO but you bought a health insurance policy in MN? Is that right or did you buy it in MN and were in CO at the time of the injury?

I lived in MN. I went to Colorado and flipped off a rail on my snowboard. Most of my ligaments are gone between my shoulder and collar bones. The ER visit was covered to 80% in my plan.

I like the idea as well.

This brings an interesting point to bear. Around the time of passing if asked if one supported 'Obamacare' the support was just under 50%. However, when asked if you support specific rules within the package and the term 'Obamacare' wasn't use the majority was overwhelming for those instances. For example, having a law that insurance companies cannot reject you for pre-existing conditions had the majority of support. And it's in Obamacare. ... Also about 1/3 of the people that didn't support Obamacare did so because it didn't go far enough - they wanted more.

That means they will simply stop providing health insurance for their employees. That helps society, right?

While certainly God has never regrown arms or legs, therefore he hates amputees. So covering amputees probably goes against God's will too, right?

We are not talking about criminal laws being violated, we are talking a mandate on health insurance policy that Congress did not approve and violates the religious beliefs of multiple religions.

The courts approved this action over a decade ago, see the court case I posted. And yes churches must follow all laws, not just criminal ones.

If you think this is going away in a election year, your very wrong. Bishops have stated they intend to go to jail before they allow this mandate to effect their parish. I'm sure some of the clerics of the Islam faith will follow suit.

I really don't care if it goes away or not. Nor do I care if Bishops go to jail over their desire to dictate to my nation what it can do. Afterall this US power is derived from the people not Sky Daddy. The corruption of theocracy's are well documented in history. I choose the people.

Many Catholics voted for Obama in 08, they now want him fired. HHS secretary is apparently in the process of her being excommunicated from the RCC. It's not very often the Catholics turn their backs on a democrat, but in this election, it's going to happen.

Catholic Priests told people to vote for Bush because the Dems were pro-abortion. The Catholic Church conveniently neglected to mention they are opposed to the death penality which most Republicans were for.

While the Catholic Church may be against Obama on this I wonder if the people will truly be. It appears that nearly 85% of Catholics do or have used birth control. Seems they don't like being dictated by their own church. I can't imagine these people want the gov to force on them the opposite of what they truly believe.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Are the people who complain about abortions and contraception the same people who complain about giving welfare cheques to single mother baby factories?

 

[the_leander]

Are the people who complain about abortions and contraception the same people who complain about giving welfare cheques to single mother baby factories?

In large part, yes, in my experience. Also a large overlap between those groups and those wishing to ban sex ed and contraceptives.

 

[Robert]

In large part, yes, in my experience. Also a large overlap between those groups and those wishing to ban sex ed and contraceptives.

In my experience too.

 

[faethor]

Are the people who complain about abortions and contraception the same people who complain about giving welfare cheques to single mother baby factories?

Any individual can be an exception to any rule. Though in general the group that is against rights of the mother, often doesn't support contraception, and is against sex education are the same who once that baby is born doesn't think anyone besides the single mom should pay anything to bring forward an upstanding citizen.

 

[faethor]

. Many Catholics voted for Obama in 08, they now want him fired. HHS secretary is apparently in the process of her being excommunicated from the RCC. It's not very often the Catholics turn their backs on a democrat, but in this election, it's going to happen.

In a recent poll 66% of Americans support Obama in treating the church the same as any other employer on this issue. That's above his ~52% populatrity. http://tinyurl.com/7mh4q88 26% don't support Obama in this. What we also know is at least 25% of American's aren't going to vote for Obama no matter what. While I'm sure a few people will be single issue voters and only focus on this I'm highly doubtful after tempering the issue for the next 9 months there will be any measureable impact due to this.

57% of Catholics support the Obama. 29% of Catholics support the Bishops.
http://news.yahoo.com/catholic-bishops-religious-save-obama-080000923.html