Higgs observation

metalman said:
:rolleyes: The entire interval is covered by predictions of the Higgs mass

Compilation of Higgs-mass predictions PDF]
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The 126GeV detected particle is a boson, as predicted Higgs would be. It also has other properties that were predicted. Such as decays into 4 leptons, which was observed. Spin is something else predicted. It's my understanding at this time they didn't measure the spin. That'll require more experimentation and should be forthcoming around Dec of this year. Though interesting the 125GeV area is predicted by the Standard Model. A bit depressing as it's likely Super Symmetry may not exist. But, it does open the door to looking more into those heavier particles.

Interestingly the first Dark Matter filament observation was announced this week. They certainly should have known that Higgs would be a show stopper and waited a bit. But, oh well. ... The LHC would be the first collider that has the possibility of Dark Matter.

Sadly 2013 will be a sad year as the LHC is down for repairs. 2014 and 2015 are looking fairly exciting. I'm sure the theoretical physicsts are trying to line up their work and get some time to try to peak into those millionths of millonths of seconds post the 'Big Bang'

... Perhaps you'll like this as it's 'more' right.
"The newfound particle fits the bill for the Higgs boson, but the researchers cautioned that more work is needed to compare the properties of the particle to those predicted for the Higgs."
Scientific America Though I'd add for Joe the Plumber this nuance is probably too subtle a distinction to worry about.
 
Any bets on when the pseudoscientists start calling their Weight-Loss products as Higgs reductive? They claim quantum effects all the time.
 
faethor said:
Sadly 2013 will be a sad year as the LHC is down for repairs. 2014 and 2015 are looking fairly exciting. I'm sure the theoretical physicsts are trying to line up their work and get some time to try to peak into those millionths of millonths of seconds post the 'Big Bang'.
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Believe I saw that the LHC will be down for repairs & upgrades for both 2013 & 2014

The mass of the Higgs makes a difference in calculations just after the big bang, so the value (125.5GeV) is of interest to astrophysicists.

There are some problems that need to be addressed with the standard model that don't quite fit the data. So theoretical physicists will be updating their models and new experiments will be devised.
 
faethor said:
Part of your question here is really how do we name something. Names are arbetrary assignments to a set of properties.
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i like this because i can tell you have thought about it much, at least the failings of social constructs as we try to label things, but this announcement is less than "stellar" in my opinion not because we are trying to change the value or meaning of some word or definition, because as humans we are clumsy beasts at best, but rather because we are trying to redefine a known variable to satiate our desires as men. what we have is a "shadow" and a "footprint" of a dinosaur. not the bones. without the bones, we are all left wonting.... just my hick boson opinion... :D
 
metalman said:
There are some problems that need to be addressed with the standard model that don't quite fit the data. So theoretical physicists will be updating their models and new experiments will be devised.
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statistics have failed modern science more times than can be remembered. they go this far and no further. and they are no more accurate than all of the collective thought and random response that goes into them... one guys election fraud is another mans anomaly... life is fraught with peril and missteps... more experiments, yes, i agree...
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Because we are probably wrong about the universe (we have plenty of things we can't explain yet) but this result doesn't help us to see it or the way in which we are wrong. It would have been very stimulating to find that it wasn't there.
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but it is supposed to be the ultimate refutation of the necessity of god....?
 
Large Hadron Collider court case finally closed

Plaintiffs alleged that by causing the collision of subatomic particles, the LHC could create dangerous objects that they describe as “strangelets,” “micro black holes,” and “magnetic monopoles” that allegedly might destroy the planet.

“macroscopic effects of TeV-scale black holes, such as could possibly be produced at the LHC, that if trapped inside Earth, begin to accrete matter. . .basing the resulting accretion models on first-principles, basic, and well-tested physical laws.

Appellants argue that: “Merely being ‘unlikely’ or ‘very unlikely’ that the LHC will create conditions that destroy Earth is every reason not to proceed with the experiment unless and until it can be proven to be impossible to destroy the Earth.”
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Ruling:
Accordingly, the alleged injury, destruction of the earth, is in no way attributable to the U.S. government's failure to draft an environmental impact statement.
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:lol:
 
Why would the US government draft an environmental impact statement for a collider that's in Europe?
 
Here's the best explanation so far as to what the Higgs is all about:

 
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