Middle school yearbook groups Adolph Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, George W. Bush

I would not make a big deal out of it. but my titled "Top 5 worst people of all time." The top three, in order, are Adolph Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, and Charles Manson. Numbers four and five are Barack Hussein Obama and Jimmy Carter.
 
cybereye said:
I would not make a big deal out of it. but my titled "Top 5 worst people of all time." The top three, in order, are Adolph Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, and Charles Manson. Numbers four and five are Barack Hussein Obama and Jimmy Carter.
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You'll put Obama on said list but not George W. Bush (who caused almost every problem we're facing today)? Really?
 
Wayne said:
You'll put Obama on said list but not George W. Bush (who caused almost every problem we're facing today)? Really?
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exactly! the economy is A Direct result of bush part 2 and his mismanaged war (Iraq) and being in the pockets of the banks (who joyfully continue to {bleep} over every American even as i write).

Blackwater continues to commit crimes.
Torture, incompetence......the array of bush horrors just boggles my mind....
 
cybereye said:
I would not make a big deal out of it. but my titled "Top 5 worst people of all time." The top three, in order, are Adolph Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, and Charles Manson. Numbers four and five are Barack Hussein Obama and Jimmy Carter.
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I have to say, with the exception of Hitler, the rest of your choices are an utter joke.

Joseph Stalin, Benito Mussolini, Chairman Mao, Francisco Franco, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Kim Il Sung, Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe, Slobodan Milošević...I could go on.

Are you seriously going to try to compare either Carter or Obama to the above people? And Charles Manson, whilst a monster isn't in nearly the league of the above lists. Even Bin Ladin comes off as weak sauce in comparison to the above.
 
Blackwater continues to commit crimes.
Torture, incompetence......
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Uuuh, Bush has been out of office for a few years now. At some point you will have to stop blaming Bush and point the finger at Obama.
 
the_leander said:
I have to say, with the exception of Hitler, the rest of your choices are an utter joke.

Joseph Stalin, Benito Mussolini, Chairman Mao, Francisco Franco, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Kim Il Sung, Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe, Slobodan Milošević...I could go on.

Are you seriously going to try to compare either Carter or Obama to the above people? And Charles Manson, whilst a monster isn't in nearly the league of the above lists. Even Bin Ladin comes off as weak sauce in comparison to the above.
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I'm sure CE is making a joke in reply to the the pathetic middle school list.
 
the_leander said:
I have to say, with the exception of Hitler, the rest of your choices are an utter joke.

Joseph Stalin, Benito Mussolini, Chairman Mao, Francisco Franco, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Kim Il Sung, Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe, Slobodan Milošević...I could go on.
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Oh sure the people you have listed is worst of all time in the world. My guess why the Middle school has these worst people may be base on school that had learned about or it could be base what effect within U.S. as "Worst People of all Time”. I am sure Barack Hussein Obama is not in the history school book yet. I bet 5 years after Obama end of presidential may end up being the third on the worst 5.
 
redrumloa said:
Uuuh, Bush has been out of office for a few years now. At some point you will have to stop blaming Bush and point the finger at Obama.
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sorry, dude, but we are STILL living with his f*u*c*ked up mistakes and incompetence.....the effects just don't go away because he's retired (officially, as opposed to being on vacation while in office).

here's a news flash : most of the world is still living with the effects of the Great War (World War One). And THAT disaster happened 100 years ago. We are also still living with the effects of the Apollo missions and fortunately all those are Positive.

sorry, but bush and dickless torture lover messed up the economy so badly even in 2008 I never expected the US to recover anytime soon. It may never recover. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
 
cecilia said:
sorry, but bush and dickless torture lover messed up the economy so badly even in 2008 I never expected the US to recover anytime soon. It may never recover. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
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True that economy messed up so badly under Bush's watch, but Obama created a disaster on the economy. I have faith that US will recover.
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cybereye said:
True that economy messed up so badly under Bush's watch, but Obama created a disaster on the economy. I have faith that US will recover.
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Tbh I think regardless of what Obama did much of the devastation had been inexorably in motion by the time he came to office. Just as over here, it was pretty much inevitable that all the bad decisions would come back and bite us.
 
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That list is a scandal. Cheney beats Manson on every conceivable metric. I say someone was paid off.
 
cybereye said:
True that economy messed up so badly under Bush's watch, but Obama created a disaster on the economy. I have faith that US will recover.
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that's just naïve.
as leander pointed out, bush/cheney sent a snowball down the mountain and by the time they "retired" this HUGE ball was careening down, knocking out homes and people with abandon. Blaming Obama because his efforts to slow down this massive ball is just disingenuous. Contrary to what the idiots think, Obama can not perform miracles. And he can only do so much when others are actively trying to keep that Ball rolling down.

So I put the blame on those who did the deed.

and, I have no use for "faith". it's all nonsense. You either fight for what is right or just give up and die.
Frankly, it is very unlikely that the US will ever regain the status it had in the 20th century. It's time has passed. But at the very least we should behave with some dignity instead of being the World bully.
 
redrumloa said:
That could very well be, but it by no metric does Cheney beat the list but together by the_leander.
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Ta! The scary part is though, for some reason having gone back over the list I keep thinking I've left out someone obvious. But I'll be damned if I can think who...

Also, got through the interview earlier today, I start Thursday. Turns out, smoking, whilst highly carcinogenic, can also be a useful ice breaker if both yourself and your prospective boss share the habit :D
 
cecilia said:
that's just naïve.
as leander pointed out, bush/cheney sent a snowball down the mountain and by the time they "retired" this HUGE ball was careening down, knocking out homes and people with abandon. Blaming Obama because his efforts to slow down this massive ball is just disingenuous. Contrary to what the idiots think, Obama can not perform miracles. And he can only do so much when others are actively trying to keep that Ball rolling down.

So I put the blame on those who did the deed.
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You brought out about the housing and that had nothing to do with the Bush. That blame goes on the FED (BTW not a government, but a private bank), the banks loaner, and the people who could not make the loans. All three are at fault.

cecilia said:
and, I have no use for "faith". it's all nonsense. You either fight for what is right or just give up and die.
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Having faith and do nothing is nonsense. I have faith that the people will find a way to recover.

cecilia said:
Frankly, it is very unlikely that the US will ever regain the status it had in the 20th century. It's time has passed. But at the very least we should behave with some dignity instead of being the World bully.
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No countries, governments, or city that last forever. Look at Rome, Maya, Babylonia, Assyrian ect... It may be the starting point. Who knows? I don't view US as the world bully, but I do see as US as world police. It time for US downsize it police force out of the unfriendly countries and governments. Let these countries and governments manage themselves.
 
cybereye said:
You brought out about the housing and that had nothing to do with the Bush. That blame goes on the FED (BTW not a government, but a private bank), the banks loaner, and the people who could not make the loans. All three are at fault.
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Totally had nothing to do with bush stripping back regulation then, eh?

To be fair, the UK also had the same issue - effective regulation was stripped away by Labour over the years and the light touch regulations they put in place (to a great deal of fan fair, I should add) was simply incapable of understanding the dangers the sub prime market presented.
 
the_leander said:
Totally had nothing to do with bush stripping back regulation then, eh?

To be fair, the UK also had the same issue - effective regulation was stripped away by Labour over the years and the light touch regulations they put in place (to a great deal of fan fair, I should add) was simply incapable of understanding the dangers the sub prime market presented.
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BINGO!!!
 
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