RT is great - you know their view point.
Knowing their view point is kinda interesting in that you know what they want you to think. Sure. But passing it off to others as truth and claiming they're as reliable as any other news source is highly questionable to put it nicely. Btw, we also knew this guy's point of view as well:
That is exactly what I was beginning to suspect. It wasn't that you had any moral theory that you were working from or that you had a grasp of the workings of empire (same for thousands of years now) but that you live in Canada and the Canadian media carried very different coverage from the US coverage.
Ya, I live in Canada but also have ties to Greece. Greeks tend to have a good memory of what it was like living under Ottoman oppression. My grandparents fought the Turks, the Nazis and the Communists and my parents fled the junta. My dad grew up in refugee camps in extreme poverty. If you really think I know nothing at all about empires or moral theory then that's just your elitism shining through.
Tigger thought what Tigger thought because he formed his world view from the (specially selected) information in his media. The information given lead him to the conclusions he, quite logically, drew. The PR industry doesn't tell you what to think, they shape the facts so you reach the right conclusion.
But it's much more than that. Many Americans wanted blood after 9/11, and that's a fairly normal human thing actually. Afghanistan just wasn't bloody enough. Taking out Saddam even if it was all on a false pretext was one way for them to strike back. It's really no different than the moral justification used by Islamic terrorists who attack innocent civilians - they know they had nothing to do with any of their problems but they don't care to draw that distinction. Really, after 9/11 it was a bad time to be a Muslim and it still is. It's why they're protesting the mosque being built at ground zero, because Muslims brought down the towers not just 19 members of al-Qaeda. Did the media play a role in this, yes, but only to the extent of confirmation biases applies. People seek out the opinions they want and there's always someone out there willing to peddle it. But that doesn't mean that every media source is equally slanted. In the lead up to 9/11, yes, the Canadian media was nothing like the US media, but also at the time most of the "new media" were providing perspectives not at all in line with the GWB administration. If you remember, there was also this guy names Hans Blix and he received coverage in the US as well from sites like Slate. And there was also guys like Chris Htichens who argued for the invasion on humanitarian grounds. The thing about the mainstream US media is that they read the writing on the wall and stopped wondering if there will be an invasion and started talking about how the invasion will go down. At that point it was just about getting in on another great ratings generating war (in-bed journalism). But like I said before, it really didn't matter if Saddam was a threat or not, blood needed to be spilled and his was the only viable option. And to this day most Americans who consider the Iraq war a disaster think of the almost 5,000 Western combat deaths, not the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who died. I think that shows there's a lot more to it than just a few false pretexts here - Americans just don't care.
Over the last decade, and especially with Harper at the helm, our entire media has fallen much more in line with the US agenda. When I used to compare Canadian news to US news back in the lead up to Gulf War II, watching US news was like going to crazy land.
Yes, but that would naturally be a time of great contrast. And in fact I could argue that back then the CBC was influenced to push the official government line of Jean Chretien. The fact that Canadian news media contrasted US media isn't necessarily because Canadian media was uninfluenced. But I hear what you're saying and my opinion of the CBC is actually quite high. Neil Macdonald, Don Murray and the fearless Adrienne Arsenault are legendary and still reporting in the field today (and yes I miss Joe Schlesinger). Those three I trust and I'd have a hard time believing they'd switch over to Harper's dark side.
We lived outside of that bubble. We knew it was crap. The bubble is bigger now. Now you are in it.
Yes, I know that's how you see me. That I've changed. I don't think people change so much, even you. My perception of you however has changed. I thought you stood for the moral good but I see now that you're more agenda driven. You'll tolerate mass death so long as the Zionist Imperialist Capitalists are hurt in one way or another. That's why you expressed initial joy at the world trade center attacks. Sure you may have felt bad afterwords, but the fact that your mind thought first of the downfall of a symbol of capitalism and then of the human suffering speaks volumes about how you think. That's when I realized you and I are different and the fact that we ever agreed on something was just a fluke.
Kum bye Yah!
