SLAM DUNK! Global Warming Hoax exposed!

[FluffyMcDeath]

If you've got some time to kill watch this video instead of the one at the top. It's completely different but related and ... well, it's just way more fun.

 

[faethor]

Ocean acidification. Don says that there isn't enough CO2 to turn the alkaline oceans into acid. While technically correct, he is mischaracterizing what is meant by ocean acidification. He repeats that the oceans won't turn into an acid even when he is asked whether the CO2 isn't making the oceans less alkaline (making the oceans less alkaline is what is meant by ocean acidification). In fact the surface waters of the ocean have seen falling pH (acidification) even though they are still alkaline.

I saw this on another YouTube clip. His lack of understanding here makes my head hurt. This guy established his career in geology not knowing that acidification is the process that decreases the pH of a solution? A solution that's alkaline that is now less alkaline went through acidification. It's not a hard freshman chemistry concept. I'm all for questioning 'experts'. Especially when they define foundational concepts, like what is acidification, incorrectly.

 

[faethor]

He references this petition to counter the idea of "consensus". Lot of engineers and medical doctors on there. Mathematicians too. In Atmospheric sciences are included astronomy.

Oh for the love of the flying spaghetti monster. Did he really do that? Egads! Again with fundamental definitional failures of understanding. No wonder the entire Department he was part of turned out against him and called this a political stunt.

 

[Glaucus]

 

[Robert]

Hahahaha...... just went back and re-read all the posts and it has to be said:

 

[Robert]

If you've got some time to kill watch this video instead of the one at the top. It's completely different but related and ... well, it's just way more fun.

Great programme.

I like Horizon even more than I like this thread.

 

[faethor]

Skeptics say Global Warming has stopped. Why they are wrong

 

[Robert]

Skeptics say Global Warming has stopped.

The same "skeptics" who previously said it wasn't happening at all.
The same "skeptics" who will soon admit it's happening but claim it's all natural and nothing to worry about.
The same "skeptics" who will then admit human activity played a part in it but it's too late to do anything about it.

All without so much as blushing.

As predictable as it is depressing.

 

[faethor]

Antarctica ice sheet is growing? New study indicates that the Antarctica East Ice Sheet is shrinking more than thought. This study is largest study to date on the status of the east ice sheet.

 

[faethor]

The same "skeptics" who previously said it wasn't happening at all.
The same "skeptics" who will soon admit it's happening but claim it's all natural and nothing to worry about.
The same "skeptics" who will then admit human activity played a part in it but it's too late to do anything about it.

All without so much as blushing.

As predictable as it is depressing.

I'm all for being skeptical. In science you can't just say 'I reject all their data and insert my opinion'. Instead you need data to support your opinion. One of the large failures of climate skeptics is they reject and have nothing to purpose to verify if their view is more (or less) correct. For example, they complain that the models are all wrong. And certainly they 'all are wrong' which is why we have dozens of models instead of 1. We're still learning. The example of the climate skeptic is they don't provide their models, let alone demonstrate their model is more correct. (Basically because they have none.) Science is about observing and making those systems which better understand the world. Saying 'They're all wrong' is great but until climate skeptics start doing some frickin' science they'll be rejected because they haven't even bothered to belly up to the betting table.

One skeptic I do like is the Alabama dude, Roy Spencer. While various of his science has been wrong, at least he's trying to do some science. Sure he isn't always right, but at least he's stepwise ahead of other skeptics. Putting up this so called scientist that gets the fundamentals wrong is doing no favors to the actual understanding of the climate. This sort of foolishness harms skeptics by pushing them even further down the , we don't know science, continuum.