Solving hunger and overpopulation at the same time.

FluffyMcDeath

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It seems like the most humane option. Some people (for e.g. in New Zealand) are not happy about it though.

That's just the sort of knee jerk reaction you expect from the little people who don't like being killed off. Such whiners. The American government knows much better how to foster large agri-business by hiding information, though even they screw up from time to time.

And what of the wonderfully safe Bt toxin? It better be safe because it's in our blood.
 
Soy is a strange thing, best to stay away from it - genetically modified or not. Your first article starts off talking about GMOs, but then doesn't mention it again, nor does the article it links to. Sounds like someone's on a smear campaign.
 
a recent mouse study suggested soy damages the reproductive tract and immune system. The US research, published in The Society for the Study of Reproduction, suggested that exposure to low levels of phytoestrogen during sensitive development stages of the female foetus through to puberty can [adversely] affect fertility in later years.”
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that study shows that non-GMO soy based baby formula is risky

so that leaves only [url=http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/arsenic-organics-rice/story?id=15642428]rice based baby formula[/URL] ....

well better stick to milk baby formula ... only 5% of people of Northern European decent are Lactose intolerant ...

Just keep telling those people who are 100% lactose intolerant the dangers of soy milk ...

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FluffyMcDeath said:
Oops. Well, let me fix that. Seems that it's bad for hamsters so that's good if you hate hamsters.
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Well some people really do like hamsters

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"Picante de cuy"

marinated overnight in spices, including cumin, black pepper, paprika and dried red chillies.
Red and yellow peppers are also liquidized and added to the marinade just before cooking.
After marinating, the meat is barbecued and served whole, but split in two like a fillet.

very popular in Peru
 
metalman said:
so that leaves only rice based baby formula ....

well better stick to milk baby formula ... only 5% of people of Northern European decent are Lactose intolerant ...

Just keep telling those people who are 100% lactose intolerant the dangers of soy milk ...
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Soy is bad all round. Your url is messed up so I can't follow the rice formula link - however, the best formula remains boob formula. Infants are almost never lactose intolerant (and human milk contains lactose) except premature babies who may produce insufficient lactase (to break down the lactose). Human breast milk contains some lactase along with the lactose. Lactose intolerance develops after weening and is normal. Some populations who use a lot of dairy retain the ability to digest lactose into adulthood.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Soy is bad all round. Your url is messed up so I can't follow the rice formula link - however, the best formula remains boob formula. Infants are almost never lactose intolerant (and human milk contains lactose) except premature babies who may produce insufficient lactase (to break down the lactose). Human breast milk contains some lactase along with the lactose. Lactose intolerance develops after weening and is normal. Some populations who use a lot of dairy retain the ability to digest lactose into adulthood.
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Human Milk is 9% lactose, dairy milk is 4.7%
Darwin

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Ages vary
 
metalman said:
So then your in favor of this advance in GMO wheat?
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Not particularly simply based on the ridiculous legal theories that surround GMOs. I haven't looked at this one per se but I'm sure the IP lawsuits will remain as counter productive as ever. Once a gene has been introduced into a crop species by GM it becomes legally weaponized, that is to say, the "owner" of the gene can now bring suit against anyone who is growing any plants that that gene somehow gets into. That is the biggest danger of GMOs and it is the reason why seed companies love them. You can literally drive any farmer who doesn't chose to use your seed into bankruptcy.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Soy is bad all round. Your url is messed up so I can't follow the rice formula link - however, the best formula remains boob formula. Infants are almost never lactose intolerant (and human milk contains lactose) except premature babies who may produce insufficient lactase (to break down the lactose). Human breast milk contains some lactase along with the lactose. Lactose intolerance develops after weening and is normal. Some populations who use a lot of dairy retain the ability to digest lactose into adulthood.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-smith/genetically-modified-soy_b_544575.html
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Once a gene has been introduced into a crop species by GM it becomes legally weaponized, that is to say, the "owner" of the gene can now bring suit against anyone who is growing any plants that that gene somehow gets into. That is the biggest danger of GMOs and it is the reason why seed companies love them. You can literally drive any farmer who doesn't chose to use your seed into bankruptcy.
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What about using GMO techniques to remove genes?
plants contain foreign virus and blight DNA as part of their genome, so using GMO techniques these foreign gene segments can be removed, making the plants less susceptible to viruses and blight.

GM opponents argue that insertion of foreign DNA can cause new, unknown allergenicity. So therefore would crops with genome deletions reduce the risks of allergies? GM opponents argue that foreign DNA raises the threat of contamination of other plants and the environment. Do these new plants with gene deletions reduce the risk of DNA pollution?
 
eh... you know it's kinda funny... the original wheat was feeding people so fine, uncle sugar had to stop people from planting as much of it (crp program), all so that we could grow more with genetically fatter kernels on less space,... wonder how some shit like that happens.... money perchance?
 
metalman said:
What about using GMO techniques to remove genes?
plants contain foreign virus and blight DNA as part of their genome, so using GMO techniques these foreign gene segments can be removed, making the plants less susceptible to viruses and blight.

GM opponents argue that insertion of foreign DNA can cause new, unknown allergenicity. So therefore would crops with genome deletions reduce the risks of allergies? GM opponents argue that foreign DNA raises the threat of contamination of other plants and the environment. Do these new plants with gene deletions reduce the risk of DNA pollution?
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hmmm... kinda unlibertarian of you... always figured you for a closet darwinist... you know... if you cant hang, then die off.... what if the church or some such thing decided we should all have al gores genes? ud prolly not be okay with that... do you want your wheat to have al gores genes? or your tomatoes? mans improvements have been little of and even less than... remember the terracing they did to stop erosion? the rivers are dry.... the banks are eroding and weve forever altered the natural waterways of our home... but how has our better plan panned out thus far? i dunno... im a country boy... the earth is going to hell in a hand basket... i see it every day... fragile parts of our environment are dying off... and you may not care being in the rectum of the south... but guess what? i at least realize that not only does my future rely on it, but my kids, and your kids, and yeah, even you. there will be one place left to get clean food... and itll be with my people... if you wanna eat that crap i can do little more than wish you well...
 
metalman said:
What about using GMO techniques to remove genes?
plants contain foreign virus and blight DNA as part of their genome, so using GMO techniques these foreign gene segments can be removed, making the plants less susceptible to viruses and blight.
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You seem to have overlooked my thesis. Read my comment again to see why I doubt that any business would pursue your model of GM.
 
metalman said:
Well some people really do like hamsters

images


"Picante de cuy"

marinated overnight in spices, including cumin, black pepper, paprika and dried red chillies.
Red and yellow peppers are also liquidized and added to the marinade just before cooking.
After marinating, the meat is barbecued and served whole, but split in two like a fillet.

very popular in Peru
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That sounds pretty, damn tasty! :D

Also rings a vague bell regarding an old joke about a Dutch speciality, 'amster-jam. ;-)
 
robert l. bentham said:
if things dont work out for you, bring your family to my place... all(that work and earn keep) are welcome...:)
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I'm taking a note of this for when my current, mid-life, "gotta-formally-learn-stuff" crisis is finally over. :p
 
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