TED NUGENT Blames Liberals For Detroit's Financial Collapse

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According to The Pulse Of Radio, legendary rocker Ted Nugent has a theory on why his city, Detroit, is in financial hot water.

On Thursday, July 18, the city of Detroit filed for Chapter 9 bankruptcy protection and according to Nugent it's all because of liberal democrats. Nugent told TMZ.com, "Liberal Democrats took hold of the greatest, most productive city on earth and turned it into a bloodsucker excuse-making hell . . . Liberals seem to think that what Mugabe did to destroy the breadbasket of Africa in Zimbabwe is somehow a desirable model."

Robert Mugabe rose to power in Zimbabwe in 1987 as a leader of a guerrilla against the minority white leadership. He has been accused of running a reign of terror and causing the economic collapse of the country.

Nugent added, "If allowed to continue . . . our President will do the same to the whole country. Heartbreaking and tragic."

Detroit, which has been under Democratic leadership since 1982, became the largest U.S. city to file for bankruptcy but an Ingham County Circuit Court judge ruled on Friday, July 19, that the bankruptcy was in violation of Michigan's Constitution because it would cause the cutting of pension benefits to public employees.
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Oh dear! I don't know why Ted would say such a thing! :eek:
 
Psst Republicans, the dude spent nearly two weeks shitting himself to avoid the draft. As you put him on your pedestal be sure to look up.:D
 
Mugabe wasn't such a bad guy, he did the best he could with a bad situation. We should cut him some slack. At least they got rid of the white guy.
 
ted should shut the F up and go out to score some deer
 
Just cuz you're paranoid
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Doesn't mean it's true.
 
redrumloa said:
Oh dear! I don't know why Ted would say such a thing! :eek:
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What Mike said!

But moreover -

blaming "liberals" for destroying Detroit means you don't really have much of a clue about reality. Detroit was effectively a single industry town but liberals didn't run that industry - it was built up and then destroyed by the capitalist class. Labour won concessions in terms of wages and retirement benefits but the capitalists in charge of the companies reneged on those and gambled with the workers retirement accounts to help pad their own "rewards".

The folks that ran the companies that handled Detroit's investments and advised it on its borrowing were not liberals either. Once more capitalists - crooked and greedy ones, but that goes with the territory. Detroit was in trouble when the guys running the car companies robbed them of their worth and mismanaged them into the ground because it got much harder to pay for the pie in the sky financing schemes sold to them by Wall Street, and the people that were trying to own homes in the city got raped by the same financial institutions.

Detroit got squeezed on both sides - when people couldn't keep their houses and get jobs Detroit lost tax base and when Detroit lost tax base Detroit couldn't pay the bankers' extortions any more.

Basically, the main thing that killed Detroit was the same thing that killed the US economy - not liberals but the capitalists on Wall Street.
 
wonder who ted blamed vietnam on....he shit his pants....to avoid service... a true patriot...
 
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Has Detroit considered raising taxes?
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
blaming "liberals" for destroying Detroit means you don't really have much of a clue about reality. Detroit was effectively a single industry town but liberals didn't run that industry - it was built up and then destroyed by the capitalist class. Labour won concessions in terms of wages and retirement benefits but the capitalists in charge of the companies reneged on those and gambled with the workers retirement accounts to help pad their own "rewards".
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So Detroit should have passed a law making it illegal to move out of Detroit!

I’m envisioning "Escape From Detroit".

 
metalman said:
So Detroit should have passed a law making it illegal to move out of Detroit!
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That would have been very hard to enforce, but more than that, Detroit wasn't really in charge of its own fate. The guys who control the flow of money control the economy - and that would be the 0.01%.
 
Ted knows nothing about anything.

he needs to stick to drinking beer, shooting deer and singing about pootang

leave the adult stuff to adults
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
That would be like getting blood from a stone. Someone else already extracted the wealth from Detroit and took off with it.
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In 1960, the wealthiest metro area in America was Detroit. Today, it's Washington DC.
the last time there was a Republican Mayor in Detroit was 1961

completely unrelated random facts :rolleyes:
 
blaming "liberals" for destroying Detroit means you don't really have much of a clue about reality.
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Definitely agreed. That is reshaping reality for your own political gain. I'd have expected better from Nugent, especially considering he's from these parts...

Detroit was effectively a single industry town but liberals didn't run that industry - it was built up and then destroyed by the capitalist class. Labour won concessions in terms of wages and retirement benefits but the capitalists in charge of the companies reneged on those and gambled with the workers retirement accounts to help pad their own "rewards".
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And then, here is where all your arguments fall apart...

Detroit was never really hurt by the capitalist class. By the time the companies started playing the "rewards roulette" everyone had already cleared out of Detroit. Remember, we're talking about Detroit the city, not Metro Detroit. These are two completely different beasts. (Metro Detroit is actually doing fairly well right now. Not thriving, but being near Detroit the city is our biggest drag downward.)

But back to point, Detroit wasn't hurt by the capitalists that way. Detroit the city was already empty by then.

Let's look at the facts. Ford has always been in Dearborn, not Detroit. Even good ole' Rouge Assembly is actually in east Dearborn, (not Detroit or River Rouge, as most people would assume.). GM had cleared almost entirely out of Detroit to the massive Tech Center in Warren by then. Chrysler was in Highland Park (and planning their own move to Auburn Hills, as Highland Park's collapse was also imminent).

What killed Detroit was the civil war that broke out. Fortunately it was mostly a cold war. The only real shots fired were during the 60's race riots. But they planted that fracture in the community. And the people on one side moved out of the city, and the people on the other side stayed. And city elections became not "who is best to lead us" but "who will put the thumbscrews to those who left?" So more people left. And as they left, the businesses left, too. Hence, the income left. And no one in charge of the city ever wanted to address this elephant in the room. So they played "kick the can" for +/- 50 years.... And now you have a city of a (generous estimate) 700,000 people who have a $20B debt.

I think I kinda see the place Nugent was going for with the Mugabe comment. But that's a tightrope walk over a lot of awfully racist places. And hand-waving away an awful lot of differences in the process, as well. :/
 
metalman said:
In 1960, the wealthiest metro area in America was Detroit. Today, it's Washington DC.
the last time there was a Republican Mayor in Detroit was 1961

completely unrelated random facts :rolleyes:
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Once upon a time a Democrat owned a big fancy TV. One day he came home to find his front door forced open and his TV missing. The police investigated and found the TV in the front room of his Republican neighbor's house. The police concluded that the Republican was therefore a better manager of wealth.
 
If were only as easy as blame 1 person. Reality is so much more complicated.

But, hey Nugent is a Republican. Who loves families so much he's had 2 and birthed most of his children outside of wedlock. Those one's he didn't want to financially support until those darn Liberal Courts stepped in and make him pay for his offspring. Remember this is the guy Republicans are holding up as their shining example of what they want for Amerikkka. Nice.

New Yorker - rise and fall of Detroit's middle class
Time - How Detroit lost it's way.
 
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