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Cleveland Bus Driver Suspended After Decking Unruly Female Ride

Shi'dea Lane, 25, grabbed bus driver, Artis Hughes, 59, throat and spit in his face as he was driving according to police reports

Lane initially boarded the bus without paying, claiming, "I left my bookbag." Lane eventually paid her fare, she told him, "You a bitch and your Momma's a ho." She also reportedly stated, "Keep talking about me and I will spit on you!"

Hughes statement said that Lane "grabbed me in the throat and spit on me in the face." In response, the driver said he stopped the bus, "and I protected myself."

Witness #1 said that a "drunk" Lane "got on the bus flipping out" and "started talking crazy" to Hughes. After spitting on Hughes, the witness wrote in a statement, the driver "did what he had to do."

Witness #2 said that Lane was "loud and obnoxious" from the start, and spit on Hughes and "started hitting him." The witness added, "That's when he hit her back."

Witness #3 described Lane as "drunk" and reported that "she hit him and he jumped out of his seat and started fighting her."
 
What's moon and alice got to do with this?
 
Thanks Metalman. I'll have to check out some TV that existed 13 years prior to my birth to 'catch' up to people on this Board. :)
 
faethor said:
Thanks Metalman. I'll have to check out some TV that existed 13 years prior to my birth to 'catch' up to people on this Board. :)
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The Honeymooners was originally on the DuMont network, which ceased broadcasting in 1956.
Gleason moved to CBS after DuMont
Alice was played in the first seven episodes by Pert Kelton and then by Audrey Meadows
Gleason took great pains on the Honeymooner's set to duplicate the interior of the Brooklyn apartment where he grew up (right down to his boyhood address of 328 Chauncey Street).
one of the "real" lost episodes from the original 39 on DuMont


a recurring trope in almost every episode there was a variation of Ralph saying "One of these days ... one of these days ... Pow! Right in the kisser!" , "to the Moon, Alice! to the Moon!" or "Bang! Zoom! to the Moon!"
 
I think I'd find the 50s a weird place. Threatening to beat ones wife is funny? Odd.
 
faethor said:
I think I'd fins the 50s a weird place. Threatening to beat ones wife is funny? Odd.
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no, the joke was that Ralph Kramden was your basic guy, tries hard to live a good life but for all his schemes just never gets lucky. So. when things aren't going too well he falls back on that old, 'man is the king of his castle' crap. He makes loud noises like he could actually hit his wife all the way to the moon.

It's so ridiculous we all know it's never going to happen. It's just his way of saving face.

The audience takes their cue from his wife. She knows he's full of shit. He wouldn't be able to do Anything without her.

it's quite subtle and classic comedy.
 
faethor said:
I think I'd fins the 50s a weird place. Threatening to beat ones wife is funny? Odd.
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Obviously you never watched the show. Alice was the emotionally stable one, and dominated the relationship, Ralph was hot tempered bluster

Alice ignored Ralph's empty threats, treating them as Ralph's displays of chest-beating, while Ralph was instantly cowed by one glaring look from Alice. Alice's reply to Ralph's threats was usually, "Ahhh, ... shut up!" followed by a joke at Ralph's expense. Alice never backed down during any of Ralph's tirades. By the end of the episode Ralph's anger was replaced by short-lived remorse, and then he would apologize for his actions. Many of these apologies to Alice ended with Ralph saying, "Baby, you're the greatest", followed by a hug and kiss

The Honeymooners is a pop cultural icon, and has been widely copied and imitated ("The Flintsones" is a copy ) and has served as the inspiration for many other television shows depicting working class families that have followed.
 
cecilia said:
but for all his schemes just never gets lucky.
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One of Ralph's "zany schemes" involves selling frozen pizza, which results in "epic fail"

who would be dumb enough to think people would buy frozen pizza!

a classic trope
 
metalman said:
The Honeymooners was originally on the DuMont network, which ceased broadcasting in 1956.
Gleason moved to CBS after DuMont
Alice was played in the first seven episodes by Pert Kelton and then by Audrey Meadows
Gleason took great pains on the Honeymooner's set to duplicate the interior of the Brooklyn apartment where he grew up (right down to his boyhood address of 328 Chauncey Street).
one of the "real" lost episodes from the original 39 on DuMont


a recurring trope in almost every episode there was a variation of Ralph saying "One of these days ... one of these days ... Pow! Right in the kisser!" , "to the Moon, Alice! to the Moon!" or "Bang! Zoom! to the Moon!"
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and two clicks away from HITLER!!! yay!!!
 
faethor said:
Thanks Metalman. I'll have to check out some TV that existed 13 years prior to my birth to 'catch' up to people on this Board. :)
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You don't know The Honeymooners? You must be a commie! ;)
 
faethor said:
Thanks Metalman. I'll have to check out some TV that existed 13 years prior to my birth to 'catch' up to people on this Board. :)
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I think it's sad that people think culture starts with their birth. So many songs, shows and movies are remakes, when the best version was the original.

Lots of 50's TV was actually pretty good, it's a shame the DuMont tape archive ended up being dumped.

The real classics were the old vaudeville acts. Luckily lots of those routines where preserved in the movies.

Here's sample of Mae West who single handedly brought censorship to the movies, with only double entendres, and attitude. She was even banned from radio by NBC because they said West's tonal inflections gave her skits controversial context. She wrote her own lines.


Mae West was offered a motion picture contract by Paramount Pictures in 1932, when she was 38 years old, and made her film debut in Night After Night starring George Raft. She did not like her small role in Night After Night, but was appeased when she was allowed to rewrite her scenes. In West's first scene in the movie, a hat check girl exclaims, "Goodness, what beautiful diamonds." West replies, "Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie."
 
metalman said:
I think it's sad that people think culture starts with their birth. So many songs, shows and movies are remakes, when the best version was the original.
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Indeed. Doing so would dismiss such classics as Charlie Chaplin, the (original) Looney Tunes. Heck extended to music, I was born in 1972 so I'd have to dismiss so many greats like Jimmy Hendrix.

Charlie Chaplin's "Tramp" is probably the greatest comedic acting of all time.
 
Sadly many of those classics are dying on the shelves. Studios reused tapes (most of the early Dr. Who is gone). Tapes disengrated. And film stock is highly flammable many Studios had fires in their archives losing those films forever.
 
faethor said:
Sadly many of those classics are dying on the shelves. Studios reused tapes (most of the early Dr. Who is gone). Tapes disengrated. And film stock is highly flammable many Studios had fires in their archives losing those films forever.
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If it wasn't for fires and rot then one day the earth would be filled with nothing but shelves.
Everything passes.
 
That's why we need to push to bits! We can make lots of different archives. And recently it appears we can use DNA to archive. It's got about a 1.3Million year lifespan. Sure we can't clone a dinosaur as they were 65Million years ago. But, we could certainly improve the archives. I wonder what sort of error correcting we could do on bundling a video onto Bunny DNA and expecting breeding to carry on the copy of the data. Imagine stealing data would be as easy as dognapping.

Stepping back into reality a bit. It's doable there's the same 3 factors of everything else - time, money, and staff.
 
faethor said:
Stepping back into reality a bit. It's doable there's the same 3 factors of everything else - time, money, and staff.
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But who would ever watch it? Saving for saving's sake is ... un-useful. It would be like panning for gold in the river gravel - then keeping the river gravel as well and stirring them back together. It is important to be able to forget.
 
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