To the moon, Alice, to the moon

FluffyMcDeath said:
But who would ever watch it? Saving for saving's sake is ... un-useful. It would be like panning for gold in the river gravel - then keeping the river gravel as well and stirring them back together. It is important to be able to forget.
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That's a bit curious coming from someone posting on a forum consisting of tired old Amiga users - a system most people have long forgotten. History matters.
 
Glaucus said:
That's a bit curious coming from someone posting on a forum consisting of tired old Amiga users - a system most people have long forgotten. History matters.
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You sift for good ideas and carry them around. You don't carry everything around. Remembering everything means too much overhead and management - having to go through all that crap each time you want the gold. History is useful and much of the good stuff has been noted but the good lessons of history languish on library shelves because there is so much fluff people want to read and watch instead. It's like having a plate of vegetables hidden in a candy factory. Guess what's better for you and guess what most people will eat.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
You sift for good ideas and carry them around. You don't carry everything around. Remembering everything means too much overhead and management - having to go through all that crap each time you want the gold. History is useful and much of the good stuff has been noted but the good lessons of history languish on library shelves because there is so much fluff people want to read and watch instead. It's like having a plate of vegetables hidden in a candy factory. Guess what's better for you and guess what most people will eat.
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In your prior post you asked, who would ever watch it? Well, if no one else, historians and film scholars. With modern technology we could have stored all that footage on a few hard disks, compressing the storage space a few thousand times. And in the near future you could probably take all the movies ever made and store them on a device that fits in your pocket. When it comes to storing information, the battle against space is won. And with advanced image indexing and facial recognition, we've made some serious advancements in the battle for time as well. So there's little reason not to store absolutely everything for ever. Unless you actively want to forget, which almost seems is what you're advocating. And that will be the future, the age where everything is not only remembered but instantly recalled. Mobile devices today are impressive, but eventually they'll find ways to interface directly to the brain. Won't that be awesome? You better start copyrighting your thoughts now.

Anyway, here's something to forget:

We're so used to our modern technology that if someone were to hand me a hundred year old camera and told me to make a special effects movie I'd laugh and say that's impossible. And then George Melies would make a fool out of me. Too bad most of his movies are lost forever.
 
interesting. Much of my brother's career has been archiving our (USA) audio history. If you visit a Museum of Television & Radio many of the clips you will hear were transfered from various media (aluminum records found in someone's attic, for example) to digital by my brother years ago.

He has spent years doing that for private collectors in his home studio (first using an Amiga, btw)

he rants about how people are allowing priceless bits of history to die in obscurity.

we are ignoring our history and culture. (well, I'm not) :D But lots of people are and it irks me

fortunately there are some people like my brother and his colleagues and Martin Scorsese for film who respect where we have been and want to conserve it for the future.
 
yes, it is.
having just recently seen it on cable ....I found it beautifully delightful
 
Glaucus said:
We're so used to our modern technology that if someone were to hand me a hundred year old camera and told me to make a special effects movie I'd laugh and say that's impossible.
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The big challenge would be developing the film - oh, and buying the film. This film is all stop motion, a technique that was developed quite early on and something I used with my old 8mm Brownie. After all, a hundred year old movie camera works just about the same as a 50 year old movie camera. My Brownie was my dad's and looked just like this:
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with the leather case too:browniecase.jpg
Too bad most of his movies are lost forever.
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Most of everything is lost forever. That's what makes it valuable.
But, then again, most of everything is crap. How much crap can you collect before you overwhelm the ability of the filter to determine if it's crap or not? When you go to see a movie do you really want to see all the idea pitches, early drafts, outtakes, rewrites, writer's notebooks, early cold reads, rehearsals and everything else that went into the process, or do you just want the distilled product of all that. Value is all about knowing what to keep and separating it from the rest.
 
redrumloa said:
Indeed. Doing so would dismiss such classics as Charlie Chaplin, the (original) Looney Tunes. Heck extended to music, I was born in 1972 so I'd have to dismiss so many greats like Jimmy Hendrix.

Charlie Chaplin's "Tramp" is probably the greatest comedic acting of all time.
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From The Kid with four-year-old Jackie Coogan his co-star. (1920) was the first film to combine comedy and drama.
Chaplin was also the writer, director, and composed the musical scores

 
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