Two Weeks To Go

Glaucus said:
Wow, now I've seen it all. Fluffy tearing apart a conspiracy theory. ;)
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Where did he do that at? He's spinning around and not getting much traction on the facts. Now if he can clearly show that Paul was completely incompetent and didn't understand just who those 11 members are on his and Frank's task force, I may buy into that line of pure incompetence.

But I have to admit, Fluffy seems to be bang on in this case. Ron Paul seems to be what he advertises. Not sure I could say that about the rest.
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Not too me, and the clock is ticking.
 
Yup, till he found Ron Paul's Soros connection.
 
Dammy said:
Yup, till he found Ron Paul's Soros connection.
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I know. And it's enough to poison you to a good man and you'd rather vote for someone who lies to you and then does something other than what they promised.
And I can say anything about the Soros connection and Soros is backing so many organizations he's hard to avoid. You have to watch Soros because he hates bloated corrupted dinosaurs like Communism as when he helped topple communism in Hungary and turn that country capitalist. His OSI even played a role in the Rose Revolution in the country of Georgia. The man who broke the Bank of England and forced the UK to withdraw from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism and made a ton of good old capitalist bucks while doing it is clearly a wily character you need to keep an eye on but he is not a good reason to get all girly-scared off of the only candidate in the race with integrity and the courage of his convictions. Soros can't make Paul do something he doesn't believe in.

Yes, Soros is a powerful and influential financier who like to think of himself as a philosopher but are you perhaps afraid, like the Prime Minister of Malaysia was, that Soros is just part of a larger Jewish conspiracy?
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
I know. And it's enough to poison you to a good man and you'd rather vote for someone who lies to you and then does something other than what they promised.
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Exactly who is that and what did he lie about?

And I can say anything about the Soros connection and Soros is backing so many organizations he's hard to avoid. You have to watch Soros because he hates bloated corrupted dinosaurs like Communism as when he helped topple communism in Hungary and turn that country capitalist. His OSI even played a role in the Rose Revolution in the country of Georgia. The man who broke the Bank of England and forced the UK to withdraw from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism and made a ton of good old capitalist bucks while doing it is clearly a wily character you need to keep an eye on but he is not a good reason to get all girly-scared off of the only candidate in the race with integrity and the courage of his convictions. Soros can't make Paul do something he doesn't believe in.
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Apparently Paul is firmly in Soros' corner if that is the case:

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/02/ron-pauls-soros-defense-plan/

http://www.comw.org/pda/1006SDTF.html

And you think I can vote for Soros' man with Soros' one world government agenda? I don't think so.

Yes, Soros is a powerful and influential financier who like to think of himself as a philosopher but are you perhaps afraid, like the Prime Minister of Malaysia was, that Soros is just part of a larger Jewish conspiracy?
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Don't lower yourself to that level Fluffy, you don't need to climb down into that gutter to try to goad me. Elites are of many different religions. As far as Soros, he said in a video that he was hooked on manipulating countries, he talks about it as a experiment as if the people suffering and and massive numbers of death is meaningless to him as he tries to perfect his country manipulation skills. He is an evil bastard who sees himself as his own god, talk about delusions of grandeur. I should vote for his puppet? I don't think so.

Such a pity that I will have to vote for a default candidate in a week. But there is no real hope anyways, regardless who is about to be elected, the world as we know it is about to be surrendered to Soros and his elite buddies. Progessives are about to get their utopia dream come true, I don't think you all are going to be very happy in the end, less you secure a job as overseer of the neo-slaves. Better to be a well fed overseer then starving slave, right Fluffy?
 
Dammy said:
..... hooked on manipulating countries.... as if the people suffering and and massive numbers of death is meaningless.....
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Sounds a bit like US foreign policy from 1945 to the present day.
 
Dammy said:
Exactly who is that and what did he lie about?
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Let's look at the field. How about Newt? Serial adulterer - he doesn't even care about the people closest to him, he won't care about you. He's flip flopped all over the place over the years.

Romney? Buy companies, layoff workers and then squeeze the juice out of whatever remains. He knows which side he's on. If another 20% of Americans have to be putout of work and put out of their homes to make the big banks whole again, he'll do what's necessary to make sure the rich don't have to suffer.

Santorum? Well, I think this story shows that he knows how to run government in the good old boy way.

Ron Paul? He just believes in the Constitution - which is the Constitution of a Republic, not an Empire.

Apparently Paul is firmly in Soros' corner if that is the case:

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/02/ron-pauls-soros-defense-plan/
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And you link to a David (ex Communist Party member) Horowitz - repeatedly caught misrepresenting the truth concerning university professors he doesn't like.

As to the Glenn Beck / Ron Paul and who owns who question - here is what you don't seem to be able to see. Ron Paul selected some people to write a report. Soros didn't select them for Ron Paul. Soros is not funding Ron Paul and making him select people or making him say anything. That situation is completely different from Glenn Becks situation since he IS receiving money from Clear Channel and Clear Channel are notorious for setting editorial content from the top - pushing their political agenda through their money - and they ARE the establishment and they don't want anyone messing with the establishment.

I also realize that by defending Paul I will only cement your prejudices. I don't have access to expensive PR experts with focus group testing the way the Clear Channel and the Establishment do. Ron Paul is firmly in the Constitutional libertarian camp and if he shares some points of philosophy with other people from time to time it does not mean that suddenly he is in their camp. He remains in his own, steadfastly, but he isn't going to gratuitously disagree with people just because they are from another camp.

As far as Soros, he said in a video that he was hooked on manipulating countries, he talks about it as a experiment as if the people suffering and and massive numbers of death is meaningless to him as he tries to perfect his country manipulation skills.
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See? The PR smear campaign works. They have you talking about Soros and fearing Soros instead of talking about Paul and what he actually believes. That is the propaganda technique known as "guilt by association".
I should vote for his puppet? I don't think so.
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And there it is going right past your rational faculties.
But there is no real hope anyways, regardless who is about to be elected, the world as we know it is about to be surrendered to Soros and his elite buddies.
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There are factions among the elite too. They aren't all on the same side. Some want a more open society. Others prefer a closed society because it is much easier to control and extract resources from.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Let's look at the field. How about Newt? Serial adulterer - he doesn't even care about the people closest to him, he won't care about you. He's flip flopped all over the place over the years.
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Yup, he is a frugal socialist.

Romney? Buy companies, layoff workers and then squeeze the juice out of whatever remains. He knows which side he's on. If another 20% of Americans have to be putout of work and put out of their homes to make the big banks whole again, he'll do what's necessary to make sure the rich don't have to suffer.
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Actually if you look at the truth (vs what is being said now), most of the evil Bain Capital (and for disclosure, I do work for a franchisee of a corp within Bain Capital) dissolved and sold off assets was AFTER Romney the socialist had left BC. AFAIK, there was one factory that was closed, the employees of that company was offered jobs at a different site. Am I going to vote for Mitt? No, he's a big government socialist.

Santorum? Well, I think this story shows that he knows how to run government in the good old boy way.
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Least of the worst.

Ron Paul? He just believes in the Constitution - which is the Constitution of a Republic, not an Empire.
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Vote for a Soros hack? Not me.


And you link to a David (ex Communist Party member) Horowitz - repeatedly caught misrepresenting the truth concerning university professors he doesn't like.
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Says you.

As to the Glenn Beck / Ron Paul and who owns who question - here is what you don't seem to be able to see. Ron Paul selected some people to write a report. Soros didn't select them for Ron Paul. Soros is not funding Ron Paul and making him select people or making him say anything. That situation is completely different from Glenn Becks situation since he IS receiving money from Clear Channel and Clear Channel are notorious for setting editorial content from the top - pushing their political agenda through their money - and they ARE the establishment and they don't want anyone messing with the establishment.

I also realize that by defending Paul I will only cement your prejudices. I don't have access to expensive PR experts with focus group testing the way the Clear Channel and the Establishment do. Ron Paul is firmly in the Constitutional libertarian camp and if he shares some points of philosophy with other people from time to time it does not mean that suddenly he is in their camp. He remains in his own, steadfastly, but he isn't going to gratuitously disagree with people just because they are from another camp.



See? The PR smear campaign works. They have you talking about Soros and fearing Soros instead of talking about Paul and what he actually believes. That is the propaganda technique known as "guilt by association".

And there it is going right past your rational faculties.
There are factions among the elite too. They aren't all on the same side. Some want a more open society. Others prefer a closed society because it is much easier to control and extract resources from.
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Don't worry, Soros and this billionaire buddies will be controlling Canada as well. They control your political party as well as the rest of them. They cover all their bases.
 
Well, I voted for Rick today. Not happy about it, but this is a throw away election, what is about to happen is going to happen and there isn't squat that can be done about it.
 
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