UK NHS Rationing Surgeries

DISCLAIMER: This is not intended to be thread of US vs UK health care systems. My questions below are genuine curiosity. Thanks - Lee

UK NHS To Begin Rationing Surgeries

I'm genuinely curious to hear from my friends "across the pond" how this type of situation is being viewed by the public, particularly those under the NHS. I ask because from my perspective (granted I have insurance) rationing of procedures is not only an impact to quality of life but also a potential "can of worms" for future cuts / "cost savings", ie who will be disallowed (example elderly, terminal, etc...).

If anyone wants to do a "US vs UK" debate, please start another thread. :)

Regards,
Ltstanfo
 
As a regular user of the NHS, I have yet to notice any change.

I have another hospital appointment on Monday, as I have had every few months for the last several years.

If anyone wants to do a "US vs UK" debate, please start another thread.
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I think someone already did. ;-)
 
Actually it's part of an agenda to end public health care. It's being pushed here too. The idea is to get rid of such social spending and turn it into a private profit center instead.
 
ltstanfo said:
UK NHS To Begin Rationing Surgeries
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Some of what they are doing makes sense. There is a certain amount of triage that needs to be done to assess cost/benefit. Putting down solid rules may not be fully thought through. Resources aren't infinite and it seems like a better way to ration then finding technicalities in coverage contracts or just not treating the poor.
On the other hand, it is a political problem since the issue is not that there is no money but where politicians want the money spent. The bombs dropped to kill Libyans in Tripoli could have funded quite a few knee surgeries but failing to overthrow Gaddafi seems to have been a more urgent political aim. This way Libyans suffer and Brits can share in that suffering.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Actually it's part of an agenda to end public health care. It's being pushed here too. The idea is to get rid of such social spending and turn it into a private profit center instead.
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No argument about that. The only silver lining is that it's still not quite acceptable for them to publicly admit to this, and both parties still toe the "NHS is a wonderful institution," line. This makes ending completely a bit tricky for them but they've been chipping away at it for years.
 
redrumloa said:
WOW! Thank God for the broken system in the USA! At least we don't have a failed socialist system with rationing!
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Time to roll this one out again:
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redrumloa said:
WOW! Thank God for the broken system in the USA! At least we don't have a failed socialist system with rationing!
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Please detail how your system works, how it is funded, what makes it so efficient and who does it cover and for what. Put some dollars and cents in that.
 
Robert said:
As a regular user of the NHS, I have yet to notice any change.

I have another hospital appointment on Monday, as I have had every few months for the last several years.

I think someone already did. ;-)
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really????
you go to a hospital every few months????

I don't think I've seen a doctor for decades :D
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Please detail how your system works, how it is funded, what makes it so efficient and who does it cover and for what. Put some dollars and cents in that.
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Too vague of a question. We don't have a one size fits all health care system.
 
cecilia said:
really????
you go to a hospital every few months????

I don't think I've seen a doctor for decades :D
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Yes. I had an operation on my left ear a few years back and have gone for a check up every few months since. Just to make sure it's all still good. So far, all's well. :-)

Anyone and everyone who lives in the UK can make an appointment with a doctor whenever they feel like it.

I'm pretty sure we spoke a little about this when we met. You had injured your leg/hip?
 
Robert said:
Yes. I had an operation on my left ear a few years back and have gone for a check up every few months since. Just to make sure it's all still good. So far, all's well. :)

Anyone and everyone who lives in the UK can make an appointment with a doctor whenever they feel like it.

I'm pretty sure we spoke a little about this when we met. You had injured your leg/hip?
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yes, we did speak of it.
glad your ear is well....Hello Heloow :lol:

seriously, because I have to take complete control over my health I have done what I can with my torn muscles/tendons and slowly they are returning to greater functionality.
one could always imagine that if I had the time and the money it would have been nice to have formal therapy but that was never going to be possible.

and, of course, the american fascists see no value in healthy, fully functioning citizens who can continue working and contributing to society all their life. I'm just fortunate to have been born in the right family that values education and Thinking.
 
cecilia said:
yes, we did speak of it.
glad your ear is well....Hello Heloow :lol:
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Yes, being able to hear in stereo is priceless when you have recording as a hobby.

seriously, because I have to take complete control over my health I have done what I can with my torn muscles/tendons and slowly they are returning to greater functionality.
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Glad to hear it.

And steer clear of things like this:
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:-)

one could always imagine that if I had the time and the money it would have been nice to have formal therapy but that was never going to be possible.
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Yes, for all the faults of the NHS (and they are legion), it's served me, my family and pretty much everyone I know very well over the years.

Even just looking at surgery, I've had tonsils removed, emergency appendectomy, double fracture of the arm pinned and several ear operations. Had it been left up to me to sort out payment/insurance for these, I doubt I'd have been in a position to afford most of it.
 
Robert said:
And steer clear of things like this:
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EEP!! :eek:

Yes, for all the faults of the NHS (and they are legion), it's served me, my family and pretty much everyone I know very well over the years.

Even just looking at surgery, I've had tonsils removed, emergency appendectomy, double fracture of the arm pinned and several ear operations. Had it been left up to me to sort out payment/insurance for these, I doubt I'd have been in a position to afford most of it.
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yikkies! you've been busy :D

frankly, I feel many Americans really don't understand how important Prevention is. they tend to go through life going , "LA LA LA LA LA". and if something happens Then they run off to the doctor.

Even in my teens I knew that women lose calcium and muscle mass as they age. So I made sure that I exercised all through my childhood and adulthood. I tried to accumulate as much bone and muscle as I could so that if I had to lose a bit, I'd still have lots left. And I take supplements, eat foods that reduce inflammation, get a much sleep as I need, etc. Never take drugs which in my opinion just stress your body.
and so on....I was aware of Prevention as a proactive choice. If Americans wish to have a revolution in health care, that concept is it. That alone could save a ton of money.
 
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