1984 was not written as a "how to" manual

redrumloa said:
he calls himself a classical liberal, not a conservative.
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He also calls himself Sargon of Akkad.
And the Nazis called themselves socialist.
:p
Only kidding, I don't know much about the guy and he may well be a "classical liberal".
I can't say I got that impression from the brief glimpse I had but it was only a glimpse.
 
Robert said:
He also calls himself Sargon of Akkad.
And the Nazis called themselves socialist.
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NAZI = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei = National Socialist German Workers' Party
 
metalman said:
NAZI = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei = National Socialist German Workers' Party
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German Democratic Republic
Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea
Ministry of Truth
Ministry of Love
Ministry of Peace
etc.
(at least managed to swing it back to 1984 :p)
 
Robert said:
German Democratic Republic
Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea
Ministry of Truth
Ministry of Love
Ministry of Peace
etc.
(at least managed to swing it back to 1984 :p)
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Nazi party platform

looks like a socialist platform

We therefore demand:
11. The abolition of all income obtained without labor or effort.


Breaking the Servitude of Interest.
12. In view of the tremendous sacrifices in property and blood demanded of the nation by every war, personal gain from the war must be termed a crime against the nation. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalization of all enterprises (already) converted into corporations (trusts).
14. We demand profit-sharing in large enterprises.
15. We demand the large-scale development of old-age pension schemes.
16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle class; the immediate communalization of the large department stores, which are to be leased at low rates to small tradesmen. We demand the most careful consideration for the owners of small businesses in orders placed by national, state, or community authorities.
17. We demand land reform in accordance with our national needs and a law for expropriation without compensation of land for public purposes. Abolition of ground rent and prevention of all speculation in land.
18. We demand ruthless battle against those who harm the common good by their activities. Persons committing base crimes against the People, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished by death without regard to religion or race.

21. The State must raise the level of national health by means of mother-and-child care, the banning of juvenile labor, achievements of physical fitness through legislation for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and maximum support for all organizations providing physical training for young people.

25. To carry out all the above we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the Reich. Unquestioned authority by the political central Parliament over the entire Reich and over its organizations in general. The establishment of trade and professional organizations to enforce the Reich basic laws in the individual states.
 
Robert said:
So, he's a popular internet vlogger who named himself after an ancient ruler of a middle-eastern kingdom and ran unsuccessfully in an election for post-Farage UKIP?
OK.
I'm not sure what any of that is supposed to say to me about him but thanks anyway.
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Yes, sorry, Carl. My bad spelling. Haven't seen it written down in a while and didn't bother checking. He has been milkshaked several times, stands for almost totally free speech, speaks out against the trend to investigate people for jokes (and opinions) in the UK, and is anti-EU (so can't really be a torie - or at least a current torie). He has been repeatedly in the news over his Jess Philips tweet from 3 or 4 years ago now. Not a stranger to getting police investigated over it.
He first came to my attention during Gamergate I believe, as a gamer upset with the gaming presses disdain for ... gamers! He also had a channel not above mentioned, pretty sure, that I'd seen a few videos from many years ago where he read and talked about ancient greek philosophy and middle eastern history, code of Hammurabi etc - which is probably where the Saargon monica came from. Actually, I think I have found a couple of those vids - looks like there were a bunch of audiobooks that he narrated.
Code of Hammurabi
The Magna Carta

Also apparently has narrations of Machiavelli's 'The Prince', Platos 'Apology', 'The Epic of Gilgamesh' and a few others.
 
Robert said:
German Democratic Republic
Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea
Ministry of Truth
Ministry of Love
Ministry of Peace
etc.
(at least managed to swing it back to 1984 :p)
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"Since about that time, war had been literally continuous, though strictly speaking it had not always been the same war. For several months during his childhood there had been confused street fighting in London itself, some of which he remembered vividly. But to trace out the history of the whole period, to say who was fighting whom at any given moment, would have been utterly impossible, since no written record, and no spoken word, ever made mention of any other alignment than the existing one. At this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge, which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible."

― George Orwell, 1984

this is an allegory in 1984 of a historical agreement between two Socialist soulmates

nazi-soviet_non_agression_pact.png
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
is anti-EU (so can't really be a torie - or at least a current torie).
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You have been badly misinformed. Or, rather, you have been correctly informed many times before but seem determined to ignore it.

Let me summarise again for you the bits you appear to have repeatedly mis-heard:
1. Plenty of current tories are anti-EU, including the favourite to be PM.
2. Moreover, the most significant anti-EU contingent in the UK parliament is from the Conservative party.

A lot of those Even-more-Right-wing-Group-tories like flags too.
Not only do I think Mr. Sargon would fit right in but if he wants to be both anti-EU and a member of parliament, standing for the tories is currently the most viable route.
 
Robert said:
Let me summarise yet again for you the bits you appear to have repeatedly mis-heard:
1. Plenty of current tories are anti-EU, including the favourite to be PM.
2. Moreover, the most significant anti-EU contingent in the UK parliament is from the Conservative party.
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Your political system has always been a bit baffling to me. But I'll give you this, at least you aren't stuck with a 2 party system.
 
redrumloa said:
Your political system has always been a bit baffling to me. But I'll give you this, at least you aren't stuck with a 2 party system.
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For all practical purposes we (UK) are stuck with a two party system.
There are numerous parties but their numbers are relatively tiny compared to either Conservative or Labour and the government has been led by one of those two for as long as anyone can remember.
Occasionally it looks like a smaller party may change that but so far it never has.
 
For lack of better thread... This outrage culture is getting ridiculous. I don't even like the guy, but this doesn't even sound like flirting to me at all. Even if it were light flirting, it would be completely harmless. I'm no prize horse, and I have women light flirt with me all the time. Not in the "i wanna shack up" kind of way, just the polite southern kind of way. Here Lavar just sounds like he is replying in the affirmative to her question.

Report: ESPN Bans LaVar Ball After Inappropriate Remark to Molly Qerim

https://twitter.com/x/status/1140640766206894080
 
redrumloa said:
But I'll give you this, at least you aren't stuck with a 2 party system.
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The 2 party representative system is the worst political system, except for all the others, that are even worse
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1141842752436604928
This argument could also have been applied to Robinson knocking out that England fan except it was:
"To be fair, he did call him a fascist."

FWIW, I don't think Field was overly aggressive (unlike Robinson who has a history of actual violence), just find the double standard amusing.

-EDIT-
Already going full circle again with idiots on the left wanting Field locked up. Double standards all round.
 
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