Bill gates wants global population near zero, vaccines help reduce population

redrumloa said:
In one clinical trial 73.3% of the trial participants experienced new medical conditions after HPV vaccination
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The best lie is always sprinkled with a bit of truth. This site
appears to be one of those. There are a handful of truths amongst it's falsities.

For example they make the claim that Gardasil is being pushed as 100% effective. That's completely false.

They cite all the bad stuff. What they don't tell you is the rate of bad stuff is statistically within the margin of error for the same sorts of problems within unvaccinated population. For example Guillain-Barre is fairly rare it happens in nearly 2 out of 100K people. Those with Gardasil tracked slightly lower, nearly 1 out of 100K.
 
redrumloa said:
I am not saying Bill Gates personally wants to mass slaughter a few billion people over night.
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But you are saying he wants a world population of almost zero, which is beyond absurd.
(Unless you equate several billion to near zero which, in this context, is equally absurd.)

People can point and laugh at me all they want.
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Well, if you go around saying things like that, you're bound to raise a few eyebrows.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Just for the record ... sometimes letting your kids get vaccinated can get you killed.
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It was very sad to see medical health used for political gains such as this. It erodes the faith in external systems. Which in poorer and less educated nations are heavily dependent upon to help improve their conditions. For example, Nigeria has a high fear of external western medicine and it's impact to their society. The result is about 50% of all polio cases happen in Nigeria because nearly no one is vaccinated.
 
faethor said:
It was very sad to see medical health used for political gains such as this. It erodes the faith in external systems.
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But the system is politically corrupted. The longer the corruption goes on the less faith people will have. This politics is just part of the problem but the far bigger part is the amount of money involved and the amount of potential damages that could be awarded. Companies have managed to drastically reduce their exposure to law suites by getting the politicians to change the rules so that they either have blanket immunity or that actions such as class action suites are no longer tenable.
Companies do their own trials, and if you don't pass you lose out on millions spent and billions of future sales - so studies for stuff that isn't immediately deadly get fudged - "reasons" are found for bad reactions or lack of efficacy and then the drug companies write their own literature, market to doctors, interfere with adverse reaction reports, fund their own followup safety studies and fund PR companies to hack apart independent studies and it's all just business. Government departments that used to do independent verification have been whittled away and bought off and we end up with a lot of expensive medication that is heavily marketed that often doesn't do as much good as they say or does more harm than can be covered up. The health care systems reliance on the profit motive means that health care is sick.

You don't have to appeal to the base selfish desires to do health care. Most people have the motivation to do good.
Nigeria has a high fear of external western medicine and it's impact to their society. The result is about 50% of all polio cases happen in Nigeria because nearly no one is vaccinated.
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Then again, a large number of polio cases are caused by the few people who DO get vaccinated and then spread the vaccination strains to unvaccinated people.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
But the system is politically corrupted.
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No offense, but you've done a great job of taking this thread completely off topic. Do you believe there's some sort of global left wing conspiracy to reduce the world population down to near zero through the use of secret population limiting agents in the form of vaccines?
 
Glaucus said:
No offense, but you've done a great job of taking this thread completely off topic. Do you believe there's some sort of global left wing conspiracy to reduce the world population down to near zero through the use of secret population limiting agents in the form of vaccines?
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Who said it was only left wing?
 
redrumloa said:
Who said it was only left wing?
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A joint left and right wing effort to vaccinate the human race out of existence?

This thread gets better and better...
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let's not forget the catholic church is doing it's bit:
after all, the pope reminds people that condoms are EVIL.
people in Africa can run out and get raped by guys who will give them and their children HIV
yippie! :banana: more dead people
 
Glaucus said:
Good point. Just coming from you I kinda assumed a left leaning slant on all things evil.
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Anyone who is honest with themselves and reads at all has to admit that the world is being controlled by the interest of very, very few. Anyone in 2012 who does not think the US gov isn't bought and paid for by a few mega-banks and mega-corporations is either dishonest or a total moron. It isn't just one party or the other. Nowadays almost every single one of them are corrupt.
 
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