Crazy Canadian Christians

metalman said:
Atheist Communists killed over 100 million in the last 100 years for their goals of equality and egalitarianism. Slave labor and the “liquidation” of dissidents are necessary to reach their goal of creating the “New Man”
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This was a function of that nation's system. Not due to any demands of Atheism. Again show us where Atheism makes moral dictates. Good luck there as there are absolutely none. For example, the Spanish Inquisition cited Biblical dictates to carry out their murders.

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/20th-century-death/ - is a good image on death through the 20th Century.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Do you believe that if you did not have religion that you would be a serial killer? If so, why do you believe that?
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Why are psychopaths atheists?
Why do psychopaths always become the leaders of communist countries?
 
faethor said:
The Spanish Inquisition cited Biblical dictates to carry out their murders.
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The Spanish Inquisition was a tribunal established by Ferdinand and Isabella

125,000 persons were investigated by the Spanish Inquisition, of which 1.8% were executed.

historian Gustav Henningsen reported that statistical tabulations of 50,000 recorded cases tried by nineteen Spanish tribunals between 1540-1700 found 775 people (1.7%) were actually executed while another 700 (1.4%) were sentenced to death in effigy
 
Glaucus said:
This is why I hate getting into discussions about religion. It's like getting into an argument with retards. There's really just no point.
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I see such idiotic comments on all my G+ Communities. theists never seem to GET IT that not everyone in the world needs to slavishly follow a religion. So they insist on incorrectly describing atheists as if we live and act and think like they do.

every time I see moronic phrases like "atheist communist" I just fall over laughing! political communism puts the state as it's religion. I would no more wish to be enslaved by the state as I would any religion.
 
cecilia said:
every time I see moronic phrases like "atheist communist" I just fall over laughing! political communism puts the state as it's religion. I would no more wish to be enslaved by the state as I would any religion.
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you super duper "smart progressives" all worship the socialist state

ROFL
 
only in your tiny little brain


  1. I've NEVER taken money from the gov (not unemployment, not welfare, nothing)
  2. I've never looked to the gov to solve ANY of my problems
  3. I have always pulled myself up by my own bootstraps
 
cecilia said:
  1. I've NEVER taken money from the gov (not unemployment, not welfare, nothing)
  2. I've never looked to the gov to solve ANY of my problems
  3. I have always pulled myself up by my own bootstraps
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So you're only a progressive because otherwise you wouldn't know what size soda to buy?
 
metalman said:
The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition, aka Spanish Inquisition, was a tribunal established by Catholic Monarchs, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella
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Fixed. As you cited not only had orders to kill but to convert or kick out non-Christians.

metalman said:
Why are psychopaths atheists?
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You presupposed is false. History is littered with the psychopathic religious. Human sacrifices to deities are one easy example. And if you take your Bible as being a historical valid document you should be able to cite many instances where your own God blessed the Genocidial activities of his choosen ones. Certainly there are faithful modern examples like John Wayne Gacy, who read the Bible to his victims to ensure their souls would be properly taken care of. Psychopathy is lack of compassion and lack of empathy not lack of a deity.

It's interested that you appear unable to not harm others in society without the rules from your Sky Daddy. We should be far more fearful of your lack of self control and lack of empathy which is only secured dictate, than of most any other Atheist. Hint - as an Atheist I kill all the people I want. That's none.
 
faethor said:
Hint - as an Atheist I kill all the people I want. That's none.
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that is a decision each atheist must decide himself, Mao Zedong killed 45 million in 4 years alone in a Great Leap Forward.

you could just emulate the great atheist philosopher Marque De Sade

Upon entering the room, the Marquis bolted the door behind them and immediately demanded to know if Mlle. Testard had religious convictions, if she was a faithful adherent to the teachings and practices of the Roman Catholic faith. When she responded affirmatively, the Marquis proceeded to harangue her with the most vile and degrading insults. To Testard's horror he also began to engage in the most provocative and blasphemous acts, including masturbating into a chalice, referring to the Lord as "motherfucker" and inserting two communion hosts into the terrified young woman before entering her himself, all the while screaming, "If thou art God, avenge thyself!" When she refused to let him beat her, he proceeded to masturbate with a pair of crucifixes, after which he held her at sword-point while forcing her to repeat vulgar, blasphemous impieties.
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metalman said:
that is a decision each atheist must decide himself,
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Bingo! And the reason why is Atheism says jack shit about killing. It neither condemns nor condones it. Just as you eating McDonalds or not today makes no dictates of you killing other humans. There is nor moral code in Atheism. Which is very much different than an immoral moral code. Get it?
 
It seems to me that metalman believes people choose to become atheists so that they can do evil without the guilt that would plague those who truly worship god. He seems to believe that denying god is really just a moral convenience for evil doers because a belief in god is a major hurdle to evil doing.
 
Glaucus said:
It seems to me that metalman believes people choose to become atheists so that they can do evil without the guilt that would plague those who truly worship god. He seems to believe that denying god is really just a moral convenience for evil doers because a belief in god is a major hurdle to evil doing.
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The Great Sky Daddy defines what is morally good and evil
it there is no Sky Daddy, then nothing is morally evil, and there is nothing you should feel guilty about

Psychologically, guilt is the 3rd stage of ego development
Christian guilt culture is a concern for truth and justice and the preservation of individual rights. A sense of guilt also prevents some of us from engaging in evil-doing which no-one would ever discover, and motivates many to work for the common good

if you reject the Christian guilt culture, then only a society based on honor and shame is possible
 
metalman said:
The Great Sky Daddy defines what is morally good and evil
it there is no Sky Daddy, then nothing is morally evil, and there is nothing you should feel guilty about
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I think you missed out on The Age of Enlightenment . It's a fairly important 18th Century as it defined a nation by the decisions of 'We the People'. Also I think you'd find that historically what the 'Sky Daddy' considers good and evil is quite ill defined and ill understood. For example, He said 'Thou Shall Not Kill' - then but a few chapters later okays his people committing homicide. For decades, if not centuries, the Bible was used to back slavery and the subjection of women. Other Christians still think we're wrong for giving up those Biblical Principles. Currently, Christians argue that Gay Marriage is or is not acceptable to their religion. Clearly religious morals are not universal across cultures and change over time.

if you reject the Christian guilt culture, then only a society based on honor and shame is possible
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Christians are rejecting Christian guilt culture. Especially when one is talking about the more recent Praise Movement or some call Contemporary worship. It's definitely playing down individual guilt related liturgy of the church. If you haven't been to a Contemporary church you should go see it. It's rock anthems of

Honor and shame from the society is not the only thing controlling people. Simple empathy, compassion, and understanding of the individual does that as well. It's really too bad that you can't seem to be a good person without external coercion and fear.
 
So you're only a progressive because otherwise you wouldn't know what size soda to buy?
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that sentence is a complete non-sequitur. not only does it have nothing to do with my comments, it's inaccurate. I don't drink soda of ANY size and no one in the government tells me what to drink/eat.

no one in the government tells me what to think

no one in the government tells me what to read

no one in the government tells me what to do with my career

etc and so on

only idiots who need a sky daddy feel others need anyone to tell them how to live

I'm not a progressive

I'm an anarchist
 
This thread has gone past the point of parody.
 
metalman said:
if you reject the Christian guilt culture, then only a society based on honor and shame is possible
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I rejected the catholic guilt culture at an early age. any purported "intelligent" god would never even ask a man to slay his own son. ever! or be associated with the myriad of other atrocities throughout the bible. that's not a saviour, it's a sycophant. my sense of morality came from observation of the obvious. i know what pain looks and feels like, and in my moments of personal weakness i know how to cause pain. and i feel bad whenever either happens. so i try not to cause it, and when i see it i try to help. it isn't spirituality or faith that gives you that, and it doesn't come from some crappy ass book either, it's called empathy...
 
faethor said:
I think you missed out on The Age of Enlightenment . It's a fairly important 18th Century as it defined a nation by the decisions of 'We the People'.
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"all men are ... endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"

faethor said:
For decades, if not centuries, the Bible was used to back slavery and the subjection of women.
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images


John Brown - abolitionist

faethor said:
Christians are rejecting Christian guilt culture. Especially when one is talking about the more recent Praise Movement or some call Contemporary worship.
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Then they are no longer Christians

faethor said:
Honor and shame from the society is not the only thing controlling people. Simple empathy, compassion, and understanding of the individual does that as well.
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which only applies to members of your own tribe in an honor - shame society
 
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