Georgia, the Olympics, the US armada and Iran

[the_leander]

Re: Some more background information

His soldiers had no hope of beating the Russians in a fight. Maybe he assumed that the West would bail him out: an epic miscalculation. Many Georgians now feel that the West betrayed them. In due course they will no doubt turn on Saakashvili himself.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 07057.html

No way the west would go toe to toe with Russia, whilst their kit is old by our standards, they have so much of it that it simply wouldn't matter. In a land war with Russia, there is only ever going to be one victor and Europe knows it.

That this president thought otherwise was as the article said an epic miscalculation and truthfully if Georgians now turn against this Saakashvili guy, I wouldn't blame them.

As far as the crack about the "Abkhazians had no proper language, history or culture, and did not need a university anyway", I seem to recal a similar argument being made against the Roma in several eastern european countries a little while ago to justify their mistreatment as well. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Nazi's used similar language about the Roma when they were doing the rounds. (yes, I know, Godwin. But it doesn't change the fact that many viscious acts have been done over the centuries with this very justification).

Let em split, from the sounds of it the Ossietiens have had nothing but trouble with the Georgians and ultimately would be better off.

 

[Robert]

Let em split

Were either of these states to hold a referendum, followed by a declaration of independence that Georgia declared illegal, I wonder how many, if any, of the countries who rushed to recognise Kosovo would do likewise here.

 

[Robert]

Let em split

Were either of these states to hold a referendum, followed by a declaration of independence that Georgia declared illegal, I wonder how many, if any, of the countries who rushed to recognise Kosovo would do likewise here.

 

[Robert]

Let em split

Were either of these states to hold a referendum, followed by a declaration of independence that Georgia declared illegal, I wonder how many, if any, of the countries who rushed to recognise Kosovo would do likewise here.

 

[Robert]

Let em split

Were either of these states to hold a referendum, followed by a declaration of independence that Georgia declared illegal, I wonder how many, if any, of the countries who rushed to recognise Kosovo would do likewise here.

 

[Robert]

Let em split

Were either of these states to hold a referendum, followed by a declaration of independence that Georgia declared illegal, I wonder how many, if any, of the countries who rushed to recognise Kosovo would do likewise here.

 

[Robert]

Let em split

Were either of these states to hold a referendum, followed by a declaration of independence that Georgia declared illegal, I wonder how many, if any, of the countries who rushed to recognise Kosovo would do likewise here.

 

[Robert]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7580386.stm

Russia's upper house of parliament has unanimously backed the independence of Georgia's two breakaway provinces - Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Both have had de facto independence since breaking away in the early 1990s.

No foreign state has recognised them as independent states.

South Ossetian leader, Eduard Kokoity, said that South Ossetia and Abkhazia had more rights to become recognised nations than Kosovo that declared independence from Serbia earlier this year with support from the United States and much of the European Union.

 

[Robert]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7580386.stm

Russia's upper house of parliament has unanimously backed the independence of Georgia's two breakaway provinces - Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Both have had de facto independence since breaking away in the early 1990s.

No foreign state has recognised them as independent states.

South Ossetian leader, Eduard Kokoity, said that South Ossetia and Abkhazia had more rights to become recognised nations than Kosovo that declared independence from Serbia earlier this year with support from the United States and much of the European Union.

 

[Robert]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7580386.stm

Russia's upper house of parliament has unanimously backed the independence of Georgia's two breakaway provinces - Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Both have had de facto independence since breaking away in the early 1990s.

No foreign state has recognised them as independent states.

South Ossetian leader, Eduard Kokoity, said that South Ossetia and Abkhazia had more rights to become recognised nations than Kosovo that declared independence from Serbia earlier this year with support from the United States and much of the European Union.

 

[Robert]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7580386.stm

Russia's upper house of parliament has unanimously backed the independence of Georgia's two breakaway provinces - Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Both have had de facto independence since breaking away in the early 1990s.

No foreign state has recognised them as independent states.

South Ossetian leader, Eduard Kokoity, said that South Ossetia and Abkhazia had more rights to become recognised nations than Kosovo that declared independence from Serbia earlier this year with support from the United States and much of the European Union.

 

[Robert]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7580386.stm

Russia's upper house of parliament has unanimously backed the independence of Georgia's two breakaway provinces - Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Both have had de facto independence since breaking away in the early 1990s.

No foreign state has recognised them as independent states.

South Ossetian leader, Eduard Kokoity, said that South Ossetia and Abkhazia had more rights to become recognised nations than Kosovo that declared independence from Serbia earlier this year with support from the United States and much of the European Union.

 

[Robert]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7580386.stm

Russia's upper house of parliament has unanimously backed the independence of Georgia's two breakaway provinces - Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Both have had de facto independence since breaking away in the early 1990s.

No foreign state has recognised them as independent states.

South Ossetian leader, Eduard Kokoity, said that South Ossetia and Abkhazia had more rights to become recognised nations than Kosovo that declared independence from Serbia earlier this year with support from the United States and much of the European Union.

 

[Robert]

More background information

War in Georgia Time Line

July 1-2, 2008 GUAM Summit in Batumi, Georgia.

July 1, "US-GUAM Summit" on the sideline of the official GUAM venue.

July 5 -12, Russian Defense Ministry hold War Games in the North Caucasus region under the codename "Caucasus Frontier 2008".

July 9, 2008 China and Kazakhstan announce the commencement of construction of the Kazakhstan-China natural gas pipeline (KCP)

July 15-31, The US and Georgia hold War Games under the codename Operation "Immediate Response". One thousand US servicemen participate in the military exercise.

August 7, Georgian Ground Forces and Air Force Attack South Ossetia

August 8, Russian Forces Intervene in South Ossetia.

August 14, 2008 Signing of US-Polish Agreement on the stationing of "US Interceptor Missiles" on Polish Territory

Interesting stuff:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=9907

 

[Robert]

More background information

War in Georgia Time Line

July 1-2, 2008 GUAM Summit in Batumi, Georgia.

July 1, "US-GUAM Summit" on the sideline of the official GUAM venue.

July 5 -12, Russian Defense Ministry hold War Games in the North Caucasus region under the codename "Caucasus Frontier 2008".

July 9, 2008 China and Kazakhstan announce the commencement of construction of the Kazakhstan-China natural gas pipeline (KCP)

July 15-31, The US and Georgia hold War Games under the codename Operation "Immediate Response". One thousand US servicemen participate in the military exercise.

August 7, Georgian Ground Forces and Air Force Attack South Ossetia

August 8, Russian Forces Intervene in South Ossetia.

August 14, 2008 Signing of US-Polish Agreement on the stationing of "US Interceptor Missiles" on Polish Territory

Interesting stuff:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=9907

 

[Robert]

More background information

War in Georgia Time Line

July 1-2, 2008 GUAM Summit in Batumi, Georgia.

July 1, "US-GUAM Summit" on the sideline of the official GUAM venue.

July 5 -12, Russian Defense Ministry hold War Games in the North Caucasus region under the codename "Caucasus Frontier 2008".

July 9, 2008 China and Kazakhstan announce the commencement of construction of the Kazakhstan-China natural gas pipeline (KCP)

July 15-31, The US and Georgia hold War Games under the codename Operation "Immediate Response". One thousand US servicemen participate in the military exercise.

August 7, Georgian Ground Forces and Air Force Attack South Ossetia

August 8, Russian Forces Intervene in South Ossetia.

August 14, 2008 Signing of US-Polish Agreement on the stationing of "US Interceptor Missiles" on Polish Territory

Interesting stuff:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=9907

 

[Robert]

More background information

War in Georgia Time Line

July 1-2, 2008 GUAM Summit in Batumi, Georgia.

July 1, "US-GUAM Summit" on the sideline of the official GUAM venue.

July 5 -12, Russian Defense Ministry hold War Games in the North Caucasus region under the codename "Caucasus Frontier 2008".

July 9, 2008 China and Kazakhstan announce the commencement of construction of the Kazakhstan-China natural gas pipeline (KCP)

July 15-31, The US and Georgia hold War Games under the codename Operation "Immediate Response". One thousand US servicemen participate in the military exercise.

August 7, Georgian Ground Forces and Air Force Attack South Ossetia

August 8, Russian Forces Intervene in South Ossetia.

August 14, 2008 Signing of US-Polish Agreement on the stationing of "US Interceptor Missiles" on Polish Territory

Interesting stuff:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=9907

 

[Robert]

More background information

War in Georgia Time Line

July 1-2, 2008 GUAM Summit in Batumi, Georgia.

July 1, "US-GUAM Summit" on the sideline of the official GUAM venue.

July 5 -12, Russian Defense Ministry hold War Games in the North Caucasus region under the codename "Caucasus Frontier 2008".

July 9, 2008 China and Kazakhstan announce the commencement of construction of the Kazakhstan-China natural gas pipeline (KCP)

July 15-31, The US and Georgia hold War Games under the codename Operation "Immediate Response". One thousand US servicemen participate in the military exercise.

August 7, Georgian Ground Forces and Air Force Attack South Ossetia

August 8, Russian Forces Intervene in South Ossetia.

August 14, 2008 Signing of US-Polish Agreement on the stationing of "US Interceptor Missiles" on Polish Territory

Interesting stuff:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=9907

 

[Robert]

More background information

War in Georgia Time Line

July 1-2, 2008 GUAM Summit in Batumi, Georgia.

July 1, "US-GUAM Summit" on the sideline of the official GUAM venue.

July 5 -12, Russian Defense Ministry hold War Games in the North Caucasus region under the codename "Caucasus Frontier 2008".

July 9, 2008 China and Kazakhstan announce the commencement of construction of the Kazakhstan-China natural gas pipeline (KCP)

July 15-31, The US and Georgia hold War Games under the codename Operation "Immediate Response". One thousand US servicemen participate in the military exercise.

August 7, Georgian Ground Forces and Air Force Attack South Ossetia

August 8, Russian Forces Intervene in South Ossetia.

August 14, 2008 Signing of US-Polish Agreement on the stationing of "US Interceptor Missiles" on Polish Territory

Interesting stuff:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=9907

 

[Robert]

British minister for Pots says Hue of Russian Kettle unacceptable
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7582509.stm

Foreign Secretary David Miliband has said Russian recognition of Georgia's breakaway regions is "unjustifiable and unacceptable".

Mr Miliband urged Russia to "abide by international law as the basis for resolving this crisis".

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Russia stops pishing itself laughing just long enough to respond, "Crisis? Whit crisis?" Then it falls about laughing again, muttering something incoherent aboot Kosovo.
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In equally hilarious measure, Mr. Bush says, "Georgia's territorial integrity and borders must command the same respect as every other nation's, including Serb...aherm..Russia's,"