Georgia, the Olympics, the US armada and Iran

[Glaucus]

Maybe I'm reading too much into your comment but it comes across as though you think the Georgians were quite right to bomb civilian areas, so long as they didn't kill more than a hundred-odd.

There seems an underlying determination to paint Russia as the only baddie here.

No, Russia isn't the only bad guy. I think S. Ossetia has been in the same situation with Georgia as Georgia is with Russia. I also don't believe S. Ossetia should remain part of Georgia and I think G. Bush is foolish for pushing this (although it may be just for bargaining purposes - he needs all the leverage he can get). However, if Russia did provoke Georgia into doing something Georgia wouldn't normally have done, and what it did do was no where near what the Russians have been claiming, then I think Georgia should be given some leeway.

- Mike

 

[Glaucus]

Maybe I'm reading too much into your comment but it comes across as though you think the Georgians were quite right to bomb civilian areas, so long as they didn't kill more than a hundred-odd.

There seems an underlying determination to paint Russia as the only baddie here.

No, Russia isn't the only bad guy. I think S. Ossetia has been in the same situation with Georgia as Georgia is with Russia. I also don't believe S. Ossetia should remain part of Georgia and I think G. Bush is foolish for pushing this (although it may be just for bargaining purposes - he needs all the leverage he can get). However, if Russia did provoke Georgia into doing something Georgia wouldn't normally have done, and what it did do was no where near what the Russians have been claiming, then I think Georgia should be given some leeway.

- Mike

 

[Glaucus]

Maybe I'm reading too much into your comment but it comes across as though you think the Georgians were quite right to bomb civilian areas, so long as they didn't kill more than a hundred-odd.

There seems an underlying determination to paint Russia as the only baddie here.

No, Russia isn't the only bad guy. I think S. Ossetia has been in the same situation with Georgia as Georgia is with Russia. I also don't believe S. Ossetia should remain part of Georgia and I think G. Bush is foolish for pushing this (although it may be just for bargaining purposes - he needs all the leverage he can get). However, if Russia did provoke Georgia into doing something Georgia wouldn't normally have done, and what it did do was no where near what the Russians have been claiming, then I think Georgia should be given some leeway.

- Mike

 

[Glaucus]

Maybe I'm reading too much into your comment but it comes across as though you think the Georgians were quite right to bomb civilian areas, so long as they didn't kill more than a hundred-odd.

There seems an underlying determination to paint Russia as the only baddie here.

No, Russia isn't the only bad guy. I think S. Ossetia has been in the same situation with Georgia as Georgia is with Russia. I also don't believe S. Ossetia should remain part of Georgia and I think G. Bush is foolish for pushing this (although it may be just for bargaining purposes - he needs all the leverage he can get). However, if Russia did provoke Georgia into doing something Georgia wouldn't normally have done, and what it did do was no where near what the Russians have been claiming, then I think Georgia should be given some leeway.

- Mike

 

[Glaucus]

Maybe I'm reading too much into your comment but it comes across as though you think the Georgians were quite right to bomb civilian areas, so long as they didn't kill more than a hundred-odd.

There seems an underlying determination to paint Russia as the only baddie here.

No, Russia isn't the only bad guy. I think S. Ossetia has been in the same situation with Georgia as Georgia is with Russia. I also don't believe S. Ossetia should remain part of Georgia and I think G. Bush is foolish for pushing this (although it may be just for bargaining purposes - he needs all the leverage he can get). However, if Russia did provoke Georgia into doing something Georgia wouldn't normally have done, and what it did do was no where near what the Russians have been claiming, then I think Georgia should be given some leeway.

- Mike

 

[Robert]

if Russia did provoke Georgia into doing something Georgia wouldn't normally have done, and what it did do was no where near what the Russians have been claiming, then I think Georgia should be given some leeway.

- Mike

That's fair enough, I suppose. I just can't see too much good to say about either side.

 

[Robert]

if Russia did provoke Georgia into doing something Georgia wouldn't normally have done, and what it did do was no where near what the Russians have been claiming, then I think Georgia should be given some leeway.

- Mike

That's fair enough, I suppose. I just can't see too much good to say about either side.

 

[Robert]

if Russia did provoke Georgia into doing something Georgia wouldn't normally have done, and what it did do was no where near what the Russians have been claiming, then I think Georgia should be given some leeway.

- Mike

That's fair enough, I suppose. I just can't see too much good to say about either side.

 

[Robert]

if Russia did provoke Georgia into doing something Georgia wouldn't normally have done, and what it did do was no where near what the Russians have been claiming, then I think Georgia should be given some leeway.

- Mike

That's fair enough, I suppose. I just can't see too much good to say about either side.

 

[Robert]

if Russia did provoke Georgia into doing something Georgia wouldn't normally have done, and what it did do was no where near what the Russians have been claiming, then I think Georgia should be given some leeway.

- Mike

That's fair enough, I suppose. I just can't see too much good to say about either side.

 

[Robert]

if Russia did provoke Georgia into doing something Georgia wouldn't normally have done, and what it did do was no where near what the Russians have been claiming, then I think Georgia should be given some leeway.

- Mike

That's fair enough, I suppose. I just can't see too much good to say about either side.

 

[Robert]

@Mike:

Russians also targeted civilian targets in Georgia (and there's evidence they used cluster bombs).

Indeed and this is the kind of stuff about the Russians that I think should be highlighted. There's no excuse for either of the above.
However, the focus of the criticism seems to have been elsewhere, i.e. blaming them for starting it, etc.

 

[Robert]

@Mike:

Russians also targeted civilian targets in Georgia (and there's evidence they used cluster bombs).

Indeed and this is the kind of stuff about the Russians that I think should be highlighted. There's no excuse for either of the above.
However, the focus of the criticism seems to have been elsewhere, i.e. blaming them for starting it, etc.

 

[Robert]

@Mike:

Russians also targeted civilian targets in Georgia (and there's evidence they used cluster bombs).

Indeed and this is the kind of stuff about the Russians that I think should be highlighted. There's no excuse for either of the above.
However, the focus of the criticism seems to have been elsewhere, i.e. blaming them for starting it, etc.

 

[Robert]

@Mike:

Russians also targeted civilian targets in Georgia (and there's evidence they used cluster bombs).

Indeed and this is the kind of stuff about the Russians that I think should be highlighted. There's no excuse for either of the above.
However, the focus of the criticism seems to have been elsewhere, i.e. blaming them for starting it, etc.

 

[Robert]

@Mike:

Russians also targeted civilian targets in Georgia (and there's evidence they used cluster bombs).

Indeed and this is the kind of stuff about the Russians that I think should be highlighted. There's no excuse for either of the above.
However, the focus of the criticism seems to have been elsewhere, i.e. blaming them for starting it, etc.

 

[Robert]

@Mike:

Russians also targeted civilian targets in Georgia (and there's evidence they used cluster bombs).

Indeed and this is the kind of stuff about the Russians that I think should be highlighted. There's no excuse for either of the above.
However, the focus of the criticism seems to have been elsewhere, i.e. blaming them for starting it, etc.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

@Mike:

Russians also targeted civilian targets in Georgia (and there's evidence they used cluster bombs).

Indeed and this is the kind of stuff about the Russians that I think should be highlighted. There's no excuse for either of the above.
However, the focus of the criticism seems to have been elsewhere, i.e. blaming them for starting it, etc.

Well, this is the problem that the US has made for itself. It looks like a fool if it criticizes countries for doing what it does. They have to find "safer" things to criticize them for, things in which they are less complicit themselves.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

@Mike:

Russians also targeted civilian targets in Georgia (and there's evidence they used cluster bombs).

Indeed and this is the kind of stuff about the Russians that I think should be highlighted. There's no excuse for either of the above.
However, the focus of the criticism seems to have been elsewhere, i.e. blaming them for starting it, etc.

Well, this is the problem that the US has made for itself. It looks like a fool if it criticizes countries for doing what it does. They have to find "safer" things to criticize them for, things in which they are less complicit themselves.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

@Mike:

Russians also targeted civilian targets in Georgia (and there's evidence they used cluster bombs).

Indeed and this is the kind of stuff about the Russians that I think should be highlighted. There's no excuse for either of the above.
However, the focus of the criticism seems to have been elsewhere, i.e. blaming them for starting it, etc.

Well, this is the problem that the US has made for itself. It looks like a fool if it criticizes countries for doing what it does. They have to find "safer" things to criticize them for, things in which they are less complicit themselves.