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redrumloa said:
You act like Republican's don't raise their children and help others raise theirs when needed?
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If they are a good Libertarian Republican - no. Helping for helping sake is not a virtue. And certainly the Christian Right helps when they get some personal or godly benefit out of them.

That's funny because I'd be willing to bet prison populations are a vast majority of the (D) voting block. (Here's a hint, Republicans don't like government taking over a parents responsibility by force where Dems are too lazy/stoned and want Government to do the job for them;)).
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I bet the majority of the prision population are whatever voting block they think will get them a get out of jail as soon as possible card.

There you go again! Bert and Ernie along with Sesame Street clearly lived by Don't Ask & Don't Tell.
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You guys are just too easy of a target.:p
 
faethor said:
Funny that the article cites Dems as only responding to the nation. I think the same could be said of Lincoln. He had little choice but to respond to the nation or lose his support. The 60s is a time that's written as the Dems came around, finally, and did the right thing. It was at that time when the southern Dems and their racist ways declined in power. In return the Republicans ran on the 'Southern Strategy' exploting anti-black sentiment amongst the voters. While I might give too much credit to the Dems you certainly fail to remember these significant changes in the parties in the late 60s and early 70s.
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I think the article clearly shows LBJ coming around to sign the 67 Civil Rights Act that the GOP supported. Now what GOP "Southern Strategy" was this? Or was it to allow the Democrat Party to go full blown socialist and drive the conservative south into GOP's hands?

IMO Dems are one stepbetter. Not only do they promote the strong family (Dems have longer lasting marriages and a lower divorce rate.) they realize that people live in a society. What and how that society works is how to establish justice, insures domestic tranquility, provides for defense, and promote the general welfare in order to ensure liberty. Without a postive constructive society that stuff CANNOT exist.
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I'll bite, what is the percentage of Democrats being married vs long term democrat marriages vs democrats who just live together?

Yes.
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When will your "Piss Mohammad" be approved for federal funding and shown?

Again you fail to miss the big picture. If we're to provide jobs we must grow industry and innovation. Like it or not Gov funding is one way to do this.
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So you are for corporate welfare! Solydra is the poster child for why we shouldn't.

The growth under Clinton was not only due to the Prez it was due to the coming of age of the Internet. Green Energy is one emerging sector. So while Solyndra may be a failure you need to realize their money was a fairly small % of the program. The other 90+% is doing fine...
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Lets hear those are doing well. Solyndra was one of 4 green corporate welfare queens to go under this year.

And really imagine what this country would be if 90% of private startups didn't fail. Unforunately, private startups track record is MUCH worse. But, really this is simply posturing for spending you don't believe in GW. So why would you want your neighbor to have a job that improves the condition of something you don't believe exists.
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Private startups fail 95% within two years. If you think green corps are succeeding in 90% with corporate welfare, whatever you are smoking is too green. Problem is for the green corporate welfare queens, there is no economic reason for them to succeed. Government is not the engine of economic growth, capitalism is.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Well, it would offend many Muslims so I don't see a problem with that (in exactly the way that Piss Christ offends some Christians). If a little whizz on your hero gives you conniptions then you need to get that broom stick out of your arse.

I think it's money better spent than on "bomb the brown women and children".
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I think you all should make a Progressive stand and do a Piss Mohammad on NEA funding. That will show the world you are open minded! Oh wait, that might be a hate crime in Canada...
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Or handing out favours to GOP pals like the oil and coal companies and, of course, everyone's friend, the arms manufacturers.

I'd love to see the GOP demand an end to this kind of corruption across the board but you won't see it because it would eat into their game too. Instead you see partisan sniping about individual cases - no-one wants to rock so hard they tip over the whole gravy boat.
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Go talk to your American Progressives and see if they will stop all corporate welfare. I think that is something both sides can agree on.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
That's why they keep them off the voter rolls in Florida and Texas. It's also why they spend so much time throwing Dem voters in jail in those places. It's a good way to skew the vote.
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Only ones getting throw into jail are the really stupid ones. OK, I can see how you can make that type of connection but law enforcement doesn't know political leaning at the time of the arrest.
 
Dammy said:
I think the article clearly shows LBJ coming around to sign the 67 Civil Rights Act that the GOP supported. Now what GOP "Southern Strategy" was this? Or was it to allow the Democrat Party to go full blown socialist and drive the conservative south into GOP's hands?
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I'm surprised you don't know this. The Southern Strategy was established in the GOP during the 60s during and post civil rights. Some would claim it's still in place but to a much lesser degree. Here's a good primer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Strategy Feel free to springboard from there.

I'll bite, what is the percentage of Democrats being married vs long term democrat marriages vs democrats who just live together?
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Huh? You need to reread what I stated - "(Dems have longer lasting marriages and a lower divorce rate.)" Statistics from the 2004 Bush election show the 15th highest Divorce rates were ALL Republican voting states. The 10th lowest divorce rates were ALL Democratic voting states. And Mass, which was one of the first states to allow Gay marriage, has the LOWEST divorce rate in the nation. IMO 'strong family values' isn't getting married early and divorced and remarried frequently. Strong family values are ones that stay together longer and break up less frequently. Not so surprisingly Red States also lead rates of unwed and teen pregnancy.

When will your "Piss Mohammad" be approved for federal funding and shown?
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Don't know? Your question was would I support it being done. And sure I would.

So you are for corporate welfare! Solydra is the poster child for why we shouldn't.
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Wow reading is clearly not your strong suit. No what I'm for is having the USA drive innovation and technology. Innovation itself is ALWAYS a chance. Nothing is a safe bet. So being the vast majority of the plan is working out I try not to get my redstate panties all in abundle about the 2-3% that don't work out.

Problem is for the green corporate welfare queens, there is no economic reason for them to succeed. Government is not the engine of economic growth, capitalism is.
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Do you believe the government cannot leverage bets in a capitalistic system?

Green Technology is an emerging sector. IMO to ensure America is #1 in industries we need to meet the opposition is doing and make advantages where we can. The opposition (China / Germany) are driving with both private and public funding to try and make themselves #1. Why shortchange America and put our industry on unequal footing by not matching what the competition is doing?

I think this argument extends to Healthcare. The rest of the Industrialized world has a healthcare system that's half of the cost and provides equal, and in many cases better, care. Personally I see our twice as expensive for a business private system as a cost hinderance to competition for our companies.
 
Dammy said:
Go talk to your American Progressives and see if they will stop all corporate welfare. I think that is something both sides can agree on.
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There are not enough progressives in government to get any changes. There are corporate cronies taking most of the seats on both sides of the aisle and this is why you won't see a proper cleanup. The GOP are as bad as the Dems and neither side want the game to end.
 
Dammy said:
OK, I can see how you can make that type of connection but law enforcement doesn't know political leaning at the time of the arrest.
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Political leanings are colour coded in the skin.
 
redrumloa said:
Funny how the modern day "Liberals" want revoke the Constitution.
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Certainly some of either party have issues with the Constitution. For example, Republicans have their 'free speech zones' to corral protesters at their Party activities. Earlier this year the Dems introduced legislation to include 'unless it violates the Constitution' on the Patriot Act and nearly all Republicans voted against it. I think Ron Paul was one that did support upholding the Constitution. They sell fear of the 14th Ammendment as they're afraid foreigners will run across the Boarder and have a baby. And it goes without much discussion the Tea Party would love the 16th and 17th ammedments repealed.
 
redrumloa said:
Funny how the modern day "Liberals" want revoke the Constitution.
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Who are those liberals, or if you do not have anyone in particular in mind, what are the beliefs of those liberals and in what ways do they wish to revoke the Constitution - what particular parts of the constitution do they wish to revoke, and for what reason, and in what way is that liberal?
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Who are those liberals, or if you do not have anyone in particular in mind, what are the beliefs of those liberals and in what ways do they wish to revoke the Constitution - what particular parts of the constitution do they wish to revoke, and for what reason, and in what way is that liberal?
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Liberals are, typically, for more restrictive gun registration and ownership. 2nd Ammendment issue.

Though like their evil Republican counterparts the evil Democratic side did vote for that P.O.S. Patriot Act. Though after the two opponents got Anthrax mail it's fairly clear there was some orchestrated fear run amoke. Still no excuse for BOTH parties to agree to the reductions of constitutional rights declared therein.
 
And meanwhile, despite all the fighting and political slur, kids want to see Sesame Street. :rolleyes:
This whole thread is a super mega facepalm worthy.
 
faethor said:
C They sell fear of the 14th Ammendment as they're afraid foreigners will run across the Boarder and have a baby.
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You act like an "anchor baby" is a myth.
Typically they take a taxi to the hospital when they go into labor. They don't always have to run or swim.
 
metalman said:
You act like an "anchor baby" is a myth.
Typically they take a taxi to the hospital when they go into labor. They don't always have to run or swim.
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I'm pretty sure they don't need to take a taxi. Welfare queens in their welfare Caddillacs pick them up.
 
Dammy said:
They hate paying for art like the "Piss Christ" and do not consider it art. If you consider it art, then would you consider a "Piss Mohammad" art as that should be funded and displayed by tax dollars?
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Who gets to decide what shall or shall not be allowed to be considered as art?
 
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