Olympics?

Whilst all of the above are true, I'm going to go against the grain here and say that, not only did I enjoy it (I always enjoy the Olympics) but I thought it was the most entertaining Olympics I've ever seen.
This might be partly due to me being at home almost every day whilst it was on, so I was able to take in a lot more of it than I normally would. Even still, I was entirely unenthusiastic about it before it began but gradually came around, to the point where i was really disappointed to see it end.

As for it being worth the money? I suppose that all depends on your perspective. From mine it's certainly better value than something like Trident, for example.
 
Even still, I was entirely unenthusiastic about it before it began but gradually came around, to the point where i was really disappointed to see it end.

If you're going to be forced to pay for a party then the least you can do is enjoy it when it happens. Hopefully the hangover won't last too long.
 
Whilst all of the above are true, I'm going to go against the grain here and say that, not only did I enjoy it (I always enjoy the Olympics) but I thought it was the most entertaining Olympics I've ever seen.
This might be partly due to me being at home almost every day whilst it was on, so I was able to take in a lot more of it than I normally would. Even still, I was entirely unenthusiastic about it before it began but gradually came around, to the point where i was really disappointed to see it end.

As for it being worth the money? I suppose that all depends on your perspective. From mine it's certainly better value than something like Trident, for example.
That's basically how I felt about the 2000 Olympics. We had been working on the effects for "Frank Herbert's Dune" (Sci Fi channel) and then took about 2 weeks off before starting on the effects that would show up on the DVD.
So I just sat in front of the TV and watched the games all day because our 'vacation' was right at that time. Plus it was in Australia - one of my favorite countries (for no reason). I like the accents :D

And at one of the ceremonies Midnight Oil performed so I was basically in heaven.
It was great fun.

I would have liked to see more of this year's games but my mother's allergies are just way to distracting and exhausting (saw another doctor yesterday for another 2 hour tests). What I did get to see was great.
 
Overall I think the Olympics are a good thing. I also believe that something will need to change because it's not sustainable. The cost of security alone is prohibitive, and that will basically mean only rich nations would be even capable of hosting the events - and that right there goes against the spirit of the events.

Also, not sure why Fluffy is such a sourpuss all of a sudden. Paying for the Olympics in some ways is like paying for fine art. It's impossible to justify but living without it is impossible as well. People need challenges and drama and excitement and the Olympics provides that in spades.
 
i enjoyed the olympics too. aren't too many occasions in this world that you can gather that many people together and it not be about death, destruction, and mayhem...
 
No it doesn't make sense anywhere - unless it's to signal that you are a bunch of rubes who are suckered by that kind of thing or you wish to have a feel good excuse to increase your "security" capabilities. Get the public to pay for their own chains.
Well, Brazil might be a special case. Only two years before the 2016 Olympics, Brazil will be hosting the 2014 World Cup. Some of the stadiums will be reused for the Olympics. The other benefit (as it was in Greece) is that important infrastructure will be created or improved to support the crowds.

Of course, it could be a double edged sword: if there are any problems with the World Cup, that might translate to poor sales for the Olympics. However, if the World Cup goes smoothly, then there's a good chance the good vibes will feed the Olympic sales. Not to mention it'll be the first time the Olympics are hosted in South America which is likely to draw people who never had a chance before. I imagine that Brazilians will be more receptive to the games than Londoners. I think the Olympics in Brazil will be the most exciting since Athens 2004.
 
Also, not sure why Fluffy is such a sourpuss all of a sudden.

It's not all of a sudden. I voted against the Vancouver Winter Olympics way back when we had the referendum.
The Olympics was, in theory, about amateur sports, about pure athletics - it hasn't been that for decades. These days you get professional athletes with huge payouts and giant sponsorship deals - you get huge media productions and enormous public debt while private and giant corporations make huge profits which they tend to refuse to share with the people who actually foot the bill.

The Olympic games is just nationalistic bling for governments to spend their peoples money on to show how great they are. For the big corporations and is another place to plant their proboscis and make off with a little more blood - leaving behind an itchy swelling. The whole spectacle is just a painted pig. It's nothing to do with what it says it's about.

Paying for the Olympics in some ways is like paying for fine art.
Sure, if it's fine art that disintegrates in couple of weeks. Most fine art lasts longer.
It's impossible to justify but living without it is impossible as well.
Should have stopped before the 'but'.
People need challenges and drama and excitement and the Olympics provides that in spades.
So do useful challenges ...
 

Balls. So the big sponsors made a deal and bought up stacks of tickets. What's not fair about that? You think that maybe there should be a story in the papers when you end up throwing out some of that food you bought but never got around to eating? It was your money, you spent it and now someone should force you to go to the trouble of selling your leftovers?

Imagine - if you resold the tickets it would cost you a bunch of money and effort to coordinate whereas you can just write them off against your taxes for just 10 minutes of your accountants time.
 
It's not all of a sudden. I voted against the Vancouver Winter Olympics way back when we had the referendum.
That much I figured. Not sure how I would have voted, but my reasoning would probably be different than yours.

The Olympics was, in theory, about amateur sports, about pure athletics - it hasn't been that for decades.
It was probably never that way. Technically the games were to honor Zeus, until of course the Christian emperor put an end to the games in an attempt to stamp out paganism in favor of Christianity. But even in the ancient years it was really mostly about politics and asserting dominance. Sorta like today. Things don't change as much as you might think. The fact that money wasn't a big part of the events back then may have had to do with it's religious context and the fact that satellite TV didn't exist. But that doesn't mean Olympians didn't get fame and fortune in other ways.

But you do raise a good point about money. It should be mostly about glory as the cash prizes do seem to cheapen it a bit. But at the same time I can't see how you'd eliminate it either as modern athletics requires money to train and organize. If it were purely amateur the Olympics probably would be far less popular. You know, you can go watch a college or high school hockey game for free, but who does that? Instead they pay top dollar for an NHL team. People want to see the very best and are willing to pay for it.

These days you get professional athletes with huge payouts and giant sponsorship deals - you get huge media productions and enormous public debt while private and giant corporations make huge profits which they tend to refuse to share with the people who actually foot the bill.
How could they be sponsors and not also help foot the bill? Isn't a sponsor someone who contributes to the costs? The beer league arena that I play at has corporate sponsors who pay for the right to plaster a big poster ad on the wall, which helps reduce the cost of our team fees. Of course, it's so small that no major corporations actually advertise, it's just small mom and pop shops, including my buddy's DJ business who also plays on one of the teams. The Olympics is not that much different, just on a grander scale. I do have to admit though, it's kinda funny that McDonalds is an Olympic sponsor. That just seems wrong for some reason.

Sure, if it's fine art that disintegrates in couple of weeks. Most fine art lasts longer.
Even temporary art is considered art. In the end it's all about the experience and what you get out of it. Obviously you don't get it, which is fine. I guess my beef here is that you think people who think differently are "rubes".

So do useful challenges ...
That's just you being judgmental. Perhaps you should take up a sport. It's not just a waste of time, but good for the health.
 
But at the same time I can't see how you'd eliminate it either as modern athletics requires money to train and organize. If it were purely amateur the Olympics probably would be far less popular. You know, you can go watch a college or high school hockey game for free, but who does that? Instead they pay top dollar for an NHL team. People want to see the very best and are willing to pay for it.
In the Soviet Union they valued sport for national pride and were willing to have the state sponsor it so that anyone who had the talent and determination could dedicate themselves to develop their talent. Still, the Soviet athletes liked the look of western money and were happy to defect for "green"er pastures.

How could they be sponsors and not also help foot the bill?
Well, let me rephrase that. They get more leverage than they actually pay for. 90% public money but 10% sponsors get to state terms and the public - no, of course not. They aren't even allowed to complain or they'll be pepper sprayed and detained for the maximum allowable amount of time.

Perhaps you should take up a sport. It's not just a waste of time, but good for the health.
What? I should watch cycling? Or I should watch swimming? Or should I watch someone else do my morning crunches? Yeah, I should because I'm sure a highly trained athlete can do far more and far better crunches than I can - and then I can bask in the reflected glow.
 
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