Republicans - older, whiter, and far righer

[Robert]

The point is more often then not the Republican politican has been 'promoting family values' which often has involved an anti-gay agenda. They then get caught doing what they claimed to have not liked.

It's usually worse than "claim to have not liked" as well.

When people are actually advocating legislation against that which they secretly take part in, it's hardly surprising if people are offended at the hypocrisy of it.

 

[metalman]

Not at all.

My understanding is that yon Mr. Weiner is considered to be a Progressive by some. In my opinion he was rightly shown up for his behaviour.
So, I don't really get your take on my comment at all.

For how many weeks was Mr Weiner the subject of ridicule? The original Pelosi plan was for him to go to "rehab". A Progressive in a sex scandal is a resume enhancement, until it starts effecting independent voters and elections, well then he had to go. Voters go to the polls today to elect Weiner's replacement.

 

[the_leander]

A Progressive in a sex scandal is a resume enhancement

And would you mind explaining, what a "Progressive" is, exactly?

Because all I'm getting here is just a shoe in for "liberal" or "I don't like". I suspect given Robert's confusion, he's probably on the same page.

 

[Robert]

For how many weeks was Mr Weiner the subject of ridicule?

I've no idea and I don't really give a badger's tadger one way or the other.

He behaved like an arsehole, got caught, lied about it and will probably never be taken seriously again.
Good, because clearly he is an arsehole. Whether he's a Republican arsehole or a "Progressive" arsehole makes no difference to me whatsoever.

Your mileage may (and indeed, certainly appears to) vary.

 

[Robert]

And would you mind explaining, what a "Progressive" is, exactly?

Because all I'm getting here is just a shoe in for "liberal" or "I don't like". I suspect given Robert's confusion, he's probably on the same page.

Pretty much.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Peculiar, many Whyzzat members get worked into a froth when the odd republican politician gets busted doing something homosexual behind closed doors. Here is a link to half of the Obama voters in San Francisco behaving badly out in public and there is a collective shrug.

We find it funny when people who go on and on about how "bad" homosexuals are turn out to be homosexual. That's what makes it noteworthy and that's what we always seem to have to tell you over and over again each time it comes up.
If a bunch of openly gay people are doing something gay so what. But if someone goes around saying how bad gays are and how much he hates them for being "degenerate" or something similar and THAT PERSON is found doing something gay ... well, then it's funny.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

I also don't really get this word, "Progressive," that seems to be a favourite of yours.

It's the opposite of "Regressive"

 

[the_leander]

@ Robert, on a loosely related subject, you may want to check out Kevin Smith's "Red State" when it comes out.

 

[metalman]

provide a concise definition of what a "Progressive"

"Progressive" is their own "self identifying name" for the Progressive wing of the Democratic party. From the DailyKos wikipedia:

1. Progressive is a characterization of political belief and practice generally to the left of liberal and to the right of Marxist, yet sharing important overlap with both.
2. Progressive is a political philosophy focused not directly on ideals but on progressing the state of culture toward supporting equity and justice for all.
3. Progressive is a political philosophy of liberalism which argues for incrementalism toward a goal in the spirit of progress over perfection. (see points in talk
4. Progressive is a word used by those to the left of Liberal to distinguish their political differences.
5. Progressivism is a political philosophy based primarily on realizing interdependence and expanding substantial freedom.
6. Progressives put the needs of people and the planet before corporate profits.

 

[Robert]

@ Robert, on a loosely related subject, you may want to check out Kevin Smith's "Red State" when it comes out.

Will do, thanks.

 

[Robert]

"Progressive" is their own "self identifying name" for the Progressive wing of the Democratic party.

A particular segment of the Democratic party.
Fair enough. Thanks.

 

[metalman]

A particular segment of the Democratic party.
Fair enough. Thanks.

It's the block who's leaders currently control the Democratic Party nationally.

Both parties have competing factions fighting for control, but the parties themselves rarely change, but which block of leaders and policies dominate is who's considered to be in control of a party, after each general election.

 

[the_leander]

"Progressive" is their own "self identifying name" for the Progressive wing of the Democratic party. From the DailyKos wikipedia:

1. Progressive is a characterization of political belief and practice generally to the left of liberal and to the right of Marxist, yet sharing important overlap with both.
2. Progressive is a political philosophy focused not directly on ideals but on progressing the state of culture toward supporting equity and justice for all.
3. Progressive is a political philosophy of liberalism which argues for incrementalism toward a goal in the spirit of progress over perfection. (see points in talk
4. Progressive is a word used by those to the left of Liberal to distinguish their political differences.
5. Progressivism is a political philosophy based primarily on realizing interdependence and expanding substantial freedom.
6. Progressives put the needs of people and the planet before corporate profits.

Not seeing how any of this would classify as amoral, at least on the face of what you've provided here. If anything point 2 would strongly argue against any such claim.

 

[faethor]

You have to be in a "progressive utopia" for these events to "meet community standards"

The reason this type of path is a failure is you are taking the exception (a couple gay events with public nudity) and conflating it as the rule.

Additionally, nothing in these pictures gave us any indication of what 'party' these people belong to. I don't have anything here to show me that they are or aren't Republicans. I think you're making the false assumption that all gays are liberals. My experience is while the majority are liberal there are certainly conservative homosexuals. In fact there is a group who call themselves 'Log Cabin Republicans' that are just that.

Just posting "exactly what" the public standards are in a "progressive utopia"and faethor started the thread implying that California was some progressive example to the rest of the nation.

Actually no such thing occurred. What I posted was the noteable change in Republican party and/or the population such that the population is favoring the Democratic Party. Any 'progressive utopia' was something you incorrectly inferred from my statements.

 

[faethor]

It's the block who's leaders currently control the Democratic Party nationally.

The current block of leaders is fairly centrist as they continue to back and support Obama who has demonstrated himself to center if not right of center on many issues.

 

[faethor]

@ Robert, on a loosely related subject, you may want to check out Kevin Smith's "Red State" when it comes out.

I believe RedState will be (if it isn't right now) available on early viewing pay sites. One of these is Microsoft's Zune/Live media.

 

[cecilia]

It's usually worse than "claim to have not liked" as well.

When people are actually advocating legislation against that which they secretly take part in, it's hardly surprising if people are offended at the hypocrisy of it.

I know I am

it's like Newt Gingrich claiming to be a "christian" with all those family values who walked up to one of his many wives and asked for a divorce. right while she was have cancer treatments. and, of course he did that because he was sleeping with another woman. oh, yeah, family values, dude!

 

[metalman]

nothing in these pictures gave us any indication of what 'party' these people belong to. I don't have anything here to show me that they are or aren't Republicans.

Finding a Republican in San Francisco!? The worlds hardest Where's Waldo contest!

San Francisco votes about 85% Democratic, Republican 8%, Green Party,socialist,Libertarian 7%

 

[redrumloa]

@ Robert, on a loosely related subject, you may want to check out Kevin Smith's "Red State" when it comes out.

They just keep digging in deeper.

 

[Robert]

Finding a Republican in San Francisco!? The worlds hardest Where's Waldo contest!

San Francisco votes about 85% Democratic, Republican 8%, Green Party,socialist,Libertarian 7%

So by your own figures and definitions, more than 15% of them are something other than your hated Progressives.