Syria

Former French Foreign Minister Roland Dumas revealed that there's a plot which was devised by several western countries – primarily Britain and France – to topple the Syrian the government even before the crisis started in Syria.

Dumas stressed that there's massive propaganda being spread regarding events in Syria, with all news, reports and images coming from one source, causing the French public which sees these images every day to form a terrible impression that there are "bad guys" represented by the Syrian government who are killing the people as they allege, and on the other side there are "good guys" represented by the armed groups, causing them to think that the bad guys must go and the good guys must stay, adding "but one day, the truth will come out."
He said that conceptions must be corrected, and then those who support certain policies will see that they are mistaken, and then it's possible to put an end to these policies.
 
Glaucus said:
This is an article about how Syrian women have been mistreated by Assad's forces. However, it also gives us a glimpse into how the Syrian opposition gets it's support. Fluffy loves to spread Assad's lies that the violent opposition is not only responsible for this war but also operating on behalf of foreign interests. But very few sane people actually believe that crap thankfully.
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Sane people in other countries who get other points of view give it more credibility. North American news is somewhat out of sync with the rest of the world.


It is hugely unlikely that al-Qaeda would use females in such a way or that Syrian females would risk their lives to protect foreign insurgents. Human shields are also rarely if ever used when both sides are armed.
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Screeeech!! Woa, wait? What was that thing you quoted?
In the early days of the Syrian revolution - before the protest movement became an armed insurrection -
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Oh, right. Didn't we already agree that there had been peaceful protests and demonstrations that were repressed. I have never argued against the legitimate (and peaceful opposition/resistance) but they are not the same as the guys with the guns who have cropped up (and been sent in) to take advantage of the situation.

I do not believe that any peaceful opposition would just sit and take that kind of treatment, especially in such a case where we have a minority oppressing a majority.
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Of course they would. Occupy got the crap beat out of them and got arrested and routed and just melted away. What else would they do, they were peaceful. The peaceful opposition in Syria (and it still exists by the way but we don't seem to be interested in it) is still peaceful. You don't effect peaceful change by picking up guns.

But lets imagine that the peaceful opposition decided to shoot back - how do they acquire the weapons needed to do that? They have to come from somewhere and they cost money. Poor people don't usually just have a whip 'round and go to the local gun shop. Rich people in country will generally side with the local power provided the local power hasn't done something that would negatively impact their net worth - unless they align themselves with someone outside of the country who can make them a good offer. Same thing for generals - they'll bring arms with them but they don't usually split with the local power unless they have good offers of help.
The one viable source of arms would be local organized crime, since organized crime groups have a chance at becoming legitimate governments in revolutions, or at the very least, make a lot of money. Legitimate protest groups tend not to approach organized crime for help.
People going "hey we should shoot back" and then picking up guns and deposing the local power is pretty much Hollywood and doesn't really happen. You didn't get a bunch of guys pick up guns in revenge for getting beat up in a protest and come storming out of Benghazi to take over Libya - though it seems it was portrayed as such. What actually happened was "we" took advantage of a local crackdown to bomb the crap out of a country so that armed thugs hopefully loyal to us could roll over the wreckage for the cameras.

In fact, I believe that if US government chose to put it's full power into a violent crackdown on African Americans instead of the slow but eventual civil rights legislation we would have seen an armed resistance in the US as well: Black Panthers on steroids times ten thousand at least. You oppress people they're gonna protest. You crack down on them and they will revolt. You open fire on them and they will fire back. It's not rocket science.
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It's more logistically (and emotionally) problematic than you would think. Even though a youthful population is more volatile it doesn't automatically translate into an organized, disciplined and well armed fighting force. It's more likely to look like Greece. Fire-bombings, things getting smashed, a general lack of cooperation with the authorities. While there are some pretty respectable criminal organizations in black America they would be no match for the militarized police and regular army. They would be more likely to turn their guns inward and fight amongst themselves to be the legitimate authority for the rest of the country to negotiate with.

Here we see the machinery of the Syrian resistance logistics at work. Women (and I imagine children as well) would more easily slip through government checkpoints to deliver intel or supplies to the Syrian rebels.
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Or you get your intel sent to you directly off the US satellites. Supplies come through a compliant country like Turkey and just follow the rebellion south.
 
Here's what the supposed guys are doing in the meantime:

A senior member of the Free Syrian Army is reported to have been killed by a rival rebel group linked to al-Qaeda.

Kamal Hamami, of the group's Supreme Military Council, was meeting members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant "to discuss battle plans".
A Free Syrian Army spokesman said he received a call from the group saying they had killed Kamal Hamami.
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Vivé la resistance!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23283079
 
Israel was saying that if Russia honoured contracts to deliver arms to Syria then Israel would take them out. It looks like that might have now happened. It may have been accomplished by a submarine launched missile.

Meanwhile the FSA looks like it has a two front war on its hands - fighting Assad and fighting Al-Qaeda. That's a lot to take on. If Assad offered them a role in the government it might be easier to work with Assad and argue about what's owed later.

Also it seems to be coming clear that there is no such thing as only arming the "good guys". The weapons just end up in the wrong hands anyway.

Russia delivers its report on the rebel chemical weapons to the UN (for one thing the chemicals don't have stabilizers which would be expected for military munitions), and Syria will allow UN investigators to come and have a look for themselves.
 
Perhaps things are about to get a little more tense.
 
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