The UK needs "Knife Control"

[smithy]

It is frightening what's going on here. Almost every day there is a new violent crime related story in the newspaper.

I can walk into a local shop and buy swords or knives like any of these, which clearly have no legitimate purpose, no questions asked. I'd personally like to see some restrictions on this. Having said that, such a measure would only address a tiny part of the problem.

I don't think swords are the problem. It's the small flick knives that will fit into a trouser pockets that are easily concealed and easy to carry around on, say, public transport.

You are right though, harsher sentences might help: there is no reason why anyone should be wandering around carrying a knife in their pocket (unless they've just bought it and are carrying it home).

 

[smithy]

It is frightening what's going on here. Almost every day there is a new violent crime related story in the newspaper.

I can walk into a local shop and buy swords or knives like any of these, which clearly have no legitimate purpose, no questions asked. I'd personally like to see some restrictions on this. Having said that, such a measure would only address a tiny part of the problem.

I don't think swords are the problem. It's the small flick knives that will fit into a trouser pockets that are easily concealed and easy to carry around on, say, public transport.

You are right though, harsher sentences might help: there is no reason why anyone should be wandering around carrying a knife in their pocket (unless they've just bought it and are carrying it home).

 

[smithy]

It is frightening what's going on here. Almost every day there is a new violent crime related story in the newspaper.

I can walk into a local shop and buy swords or knives like any of these, which clearly have no legitimate purpose, no questions asked. I'd personally like to see some restrictions on this. Having said that, such a measure would only address a tiny part of the problem.

I don't think swords are the problem. It's the small flick knives that will fit into a trouser pockets that are easily concealed and easy to carry around on, say, public transport.

You are right though, harsher sentences might help: there is no reason why anyone should be wandering around carrying a knife in their pocket (unless they've just bought it and are carrying it home).

 

[smithy]

It is frightening what's going on here. Almost every day there is a new violent crime related story in the newspaper.

I can walk into a local shop and buy swords or knives like any of these, which clearly have no legitimate purpose, no questions asked. I'd personally like to see some restrictions on this. Having said that, such a measure would only address a tiny part of the problem.

I don't think swords are the problem. It's the small flick knives that will fit into a trouser pockets that are easily concealed and easy to carry around on, say, public transport.

You are right though, harsher sentences might help: there is no reason why anyone should be wandering around carrying a knife in their pocket (unless they've just bought it and are carrying it home).

 

[metalman]

Great Britain banned private ownership of handguns in 1997.

I can only assume your argument is that, but for this decision, there would be a lot less violence which is, to be frank, complete and utter bollox.

Guns were restricted *because* of the violence caused by them, in case you overlooked that small but important detail.
Hungerford and Dunblane would have been far less violent if the murderers had been restricted to using knives. And if they'd been further restricted in the type of knives available to them, less violent again. Sure, a guy with a fishing knife could kill someone but of the numbers achieved in these cases? Somehow seems unlikely.

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Father confronted by axe-wielding burglars - but police are too busy to turn up for THREE hours

UK Hospital workers to get anti-stab protection vests

Nottingham is the burglary capital of Britain, #2 London, #3 Bristol, #4 Stockport and #5 Leeds.

 

[metalman]

Great Britain banned private ownership of handguns in 1997.

I can only assume your argument is that, but for this decision, there would be a lot less violence which is, to be frank, complete and utter bollox.

Guns were restricted *because* of the violence caused by them, in case you overlooked that small but important detail.
Hungerford and Dunblane would have been far less violent if the murderers had been restricted to using knives. And if they'd been further restricted in the type of knives available to them, less violent again. Sure, a guy with a fishing knife could kill someone but of the numbers achieved in these cases? Somehow seems unlikely.

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Father confronted by axe-wielding burglars - but police are too busy to turn up for THREE hours

UK Hospital workers to get anti-stab protection vests

Nottingham is the burglary capital of Britain, #2 London, #3 Bristol, #4 Stockport and #5 Leeds.

 

[metalman]

Great Britain banned private ownership of handguns in 1997.

I can only assume your argument is that, but for this decision, there would be a lot less violence which is, to be frank, complete and utter bollox.

Guns were restricted *because* of the violence caused by them, in case you overlooked that small but important detail.
Hungerford and Dunblane would have been far less violent if the murderers had been restricted to using knives. And if they'd been further restricted in the type of knives available to them, less violent again. Sure, a guy with a fishing knife could kill someone but of the numbers achieved in these cases? Somehow seems unlikely.

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Father confronted by axe-wielding burglars - but police are too busy to turn up for THREE hours

UK Hospital workers to get anti-stab protection vests

Nottingham is the burglary capital of Britain, #2 London, #3 Bristol, #4 Stockport and #5 Leeds.

 

[metalman]

Great Britain banned private ownership of handguns in 1997.

I can only assume your argument is that, but for this decision, there would be a lot less violence which is, to be frank, complete and utter bollox.

Guns were restricted *because* of the violence caused by them, in case you overlooked that small but important detail.
Hungerford and Dunblane would have been far less violent if the murderers had been restricted to using knives. And if they'd been further restricted in the type of knives available to them, less violent again. Sure, a guy with a fishing knife could kill someone but of the numbers achieved in these cases? Somehow seems unlikely.

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Father confronted by axe-wielding burglars - but police are too busy to turn up for THREE hours

UK Hospital workers to get anti-stab protection vests

Nottingham is the burglary capital of Britain, #2 London, #3 Bristol, #4 Stockport and #5 Leeds.

 

[metalman]

Great Britain banned private ownership of handguns in 1997.

I can only assume your argument is that, but for this decision, there would be a lot less violence which is, to be frank, complete and utter bollox.

Guns were restricted *because* of the violence caused by them, in case you overlooked that small but important detail.
Hungerford and Dunblane would have been far less violent if the murderers had been restricted to using knives. And if they'd been further restricted in the type of knives available to them, less violent again. Sure, a guy with a fishing knife could kill someone but of the numbers achieved in these cases? Somehow seems unlikely.

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Father confronted by axe-wielding burglars - but police are too busy to turn up for THREE hours

UK Hospital workers to get anti-stab protection vests

Nottingham is the burglary capital of Britain, #2 London, #3 Bristol, #4 Stockport and #5 Leeds.

 

[metalman]

Great Britain banned private ownership of handguns in 1997.

I can only assume your argument is that, but for this decision, there would be a lot less violence which is, to be frank, complete and utter bollox.

Guns were restricted *because* of the violence caused by them, in case you overlooked that small but important detail.
Hungerford and Dunblane would have been far less violent if the murderers had been restricted to using knives. And if they'd been further restricted in the type of knives available to them, less violent again. Sure, a guy with a fishing knife could kill someone but of the numbers achieved in these cases? Somehow seems unlikely.

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Father confronted by axe-wielding burglars - but police are too busy to turn up for THREE hours

UK Hospital workers to get anti-stab protection vests

Nottingham is the burglary capital of Britain, #2 London, #3 Bristol, #4 Stockport and #5 Leeds.

 

[Robert]

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Absolute nonsense that betrays a complete ignorance of the UK. Before guns were restricted the vast majority of the public were still disarmed.

I only knew *one* person, a relative, who owned a handgun before the ban.

So please stop trying to pass off your idiotic "let anyone who can afford one have a gun and we'll all be safe" nonsense as fact. We weren't safer before and we wouldn't be now.

 

[Robert]

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Absolute nonsense that betrays a complete ignorance of the UK. Before guns were restricted the vast majority of the public were still disarmed.

I only knew *one* person, a relative, who owned a handgun before the ban.

So please stop trying to pass off your idiotic "let anyone who can afford one have a gun and we'll all be safe" nonsense as fact. We weren't safer before and we wouldn't be now.

 

[Robert]

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Absolute nonsense that betrays a complete ignorance of the UK. Before guns were restricted the vast majority of the public were still disarmed.

I only knew *one* person, a relative, who owned a handgun before the ban.

So please stop trying to pass off your idiotic "let anyone who can afford one have a gun and we'll all be safe" nonsense as fact. We weren't safer before and we wouldn't be now.

 

[Robert]

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Absolute nonsense that betrays a complete ignorance of the UK. Before guns were restricted the vast majority of the public were still disarmed.

I only knew *one* person, a relative, who owned a handgun before the ban.

So please stop trying to pass off your idiotic "let anyone who can afford one have a gun and we'll all be safe" nonsense as fact. We weren't safer before and we wouldn't be now.

 

[Robert]

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Absolute nonsense that betrays a complete ignorance of the UK. Before guns were restricted the vast majority of the public were still disarmed.

I only knew *one* person, a relative, who owned a handgun before the ban.

So please stop trying to pass off your idiotic "let anyone who can afford one have a gun and we'll all be safe" nonsense as fact. We weren't safer before and we wouldn't be now.

 

[Robert]

After the banning of guns, criminals did not abandon their lives of crime but have become more aggressive because their law abiding victims are now disarmed.

Absolute nonsense that betrays a complete ignorance of the UK. Before guns were restricted the vast majority of the public were still disarmed.

I only knew *one* person, a relative, who owned a handgun before the ban.

So please stop trying to pass off your idiotic "let anyone who can afford one have a gun and we'll all be safe" nonsense as fact. We weren't safer before and we wouldn't be now.

 

[faethor]

Great Britain banned private ownership of handguns in 1997.

hot burglaries, burglaries where the victims are home:
In the USA the rate of hot burglaries is 13%
In the UK the rate of hot burglaries is now over 70%.

In the US criminals know that breaking in with people home is a good way to get shot.

The murder rate in the US is nearly 5x higher then the UK. The murder rate with a gun in the US is nearly 4x higher then the entire murder rate in the UK. Using Metalman's logic we must conclude that gun ownership is why in the US criminals tend to bring guns and shoot first, killing their victim. Of course one doesn't need their stuff when they're dead.

 

[faethor]

Great Britain banned private ownership of handguns in 1997.

hot burglaries, burglaries where the victims are home:
In the USA the rate of hot burglaries is 13%
In the UK the rate of hot burglaries is now over 70%.

In the US criminals know that breaking in with people home is a good way to get shot.

The murder rate in the US is nearly 5x higher then the UK. The murder rate with a gun in the US is nearly 4x higher then the entire murder rate in the UK. Using Metalman's logic we must conclude that gun ownership is why in the US criminals tend to bring guns and shoot first, killing their victim. Of course one doesn't need their stuff when they're dead.

 

[faethor]

Great Britain banned private ownership of handguns in 1997.

hot burglaries, burglaries where the victims are home:
In the USA the rate of hot burglaries is 13%
In the UK the rate of hot burglaries is now over 70%.

In the US criminals know that breaking in with people home is a good way to get shot.

The murder rate in the US is nearly 5x higher then the UK. The murder rate with a gun in the US is nearly 4x higher then the entire murder rate in the UK. Using Metalman's logic we must conclude that gun ownership is why in the US criminals tend to bring guns and shoot first, killing their victim. Of course one doesn't need their stuff when they're dead.

 

[faethor]

Great Britain banned private ownership of handguns in 1997.

hot burglaries, burglaries where the victims are home:
In the USA the rate of hot burglaries is 13%
In the UK the rate of hot burglaries is now over 70%.

In the US criminals know that breaking in with people home is a good way to get shot.

The murder rate in the US is nearly 5x higher then the UK. The murder rate with a gun in the US is nearly 4x higher then the entire murder rate in the UK. Using Metalman's logic we must conclude that gun ownership is why in the US criminals tend to bring guns and shoot first, killing their victim. Of course one doesn't need their stuff when they're dead.