Democrat 2020 candidates.

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Must admit I was shocked at how out of touch the whole thing seemed.

Even as someone on the more moderate left (especially compared to many on here), I was left wondering wtf I was watching.
 
the_leander said:
Must admit I was shocked at how out of touch the whole thing seemed.

Even as someone on the more moderate left (especially compared to many on here), I was left wondering wtf I was watching.
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I've been saying this for a while, and it seems to keep getting reaffirmed. If the Democrats keep going down this road, the next election is going to make Reagan-Mondale look like a nail-biter. The Dem debates really look like a clown car.
 
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And yet, compared with much of the nonsense on display in the debate this actually makes more sense and would demonstrably do less harm.

redrumloa said:
I've been saying this for a while, and it seems to keep getting reaffirmed. If the Democrats keep going down this road, the next election is going to make Reagan-Mondale look like a nail-biter. The Dem debates really look like a clown car.
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I know there were a lot of quotable quotes in the discussion, but the one that blew my mind was when the moderator downplayed the importance of jobs and even tried to make it so to discuss jobs - you know the nuts and bolts of basic economics - was an act of racism. I mean come on ffs.

They are completely detached from reality. It is honest to god frightening watching this.
 
Joe Biden Gives Condolences for ‘Houston’ and ‘Michigan’ After Shootings in El Paso, Ohio

Former Vice President Joe Biden suffered yet another gaffe Sunday evening, mistakenly referring to Houston and Michigan as the sites of two mass shootings over the weekend.

Speaking at a fundraiser in San Deigo, California, Biden gave remarks on “the tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before.” Only later did the 76-year-old correct his comments to El Paso and Ohio, according to a press pool report.
 
the_leander said:
I know there were a lot of quotable quotes in the discussion, but the one that blew my mind was when the moderator downplayed the importance of jobs and even tried to make it so to discuss jobs - you know the nuts and bolts of basic economics - was an act of racism. I mean come on ffs.
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I'll tell ya straight up, I didn't watch a single minute of the debate. Despite it being in my back yard, I knew it was going to be so far detached from anything relevant to me, I couldn't even bring myself to care. It was a nice weekend, and I spent as much of it as I could out on the boat.

As for the content of that mess... Who knows how much of that talk was just playing up to Detroit. Politics in Detroit are such that you can't talk about jobs without talking about racism. Hell, politics in Detroit are such that I'm not sure you can talk about anything BUT racism. I mean, Detroit has one of the largest black populations in the US... And it is a city that never recovered from 1967. So many of the neighborhoods are still frozen there. It's almost a bizarre history museum in spots. Anything that creates jobs, the first question that is asked is "Are they black jobs?" "How many minorities are working for the contractors working there?" etc. Getting anything actually done in Detroit has to be fit into that type of landscape, or it won't happen.

And now that a few limited areas of Detroit are becoming somewhat functional again, all the talk is about gentrification. "How do we keep from displacing the people already living here?" Well, I got news for you. The only people still living there are the people who had no means to leave. Which means they have no money. How do you plan on running a city populated exclusively by people with no money? How do you plan on recovering an area without displacing them? These are the sorts of things that'll get you labelled as a racist, because no one wants an honest talk about them. Better to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.

They are completely detached from reality. It is honest to god frightening watching this.
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The thing more frightening than watching this, is considering the thought that this is the new reality. Detroit is just ahead of the times. The rest of the country is heading down the path of Detroit. I've seen it travelling. So many southern manufacturing hubs are running like Detroit did back in 1998. They don't even realize that they are already completely fucked and just waiting for the crash.

We're probably going to end up with a version of Socialism, simply because no one is willing to make sane and rational efforts to save Capitalism. Instead of trying to fix Capitalism, the Democrats are falling over each other in their efforts to propose Socialism, because Capitalism is failing so many people. It plays popular with the people who have got nothing to lose. And that is a growing number of people. And the Republicans basically propose marching onward with giving everything to private corporations. Which will continue to fail at least as many people as it helps. And probably more as the corporations die off from their own stupidity. Any corporation that has too much power quickly becomes its own worst enemy.

And only a tiny fraction of the population will consider voting outside the two major parties. So that's our future.
 
redrumloa said:
Joe Biden Gives Condolences for ‘Houston’ and ‘Michigan’ After Shootings in El Paso, Ohio

Former Vice President Joe Biden suffered yet another gaffe Sunday evening, mistakenly referring to Houston and Michigan as the sites of two mass shootings over the weekend.

Speaking at a fundraiser in San Deigo, California, Biden gave remarks on “the tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before.” Only later did the 76-year-old correct his comments to El Paso and Ohio, according to a press pool report.
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Ooops? Was he told they would be happening elsewhere? Or are these ones yet to happen?

Excuse me, I have a conspiracy theory to start.
 
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Notice from the shadows, quite a bit of time passes
Proper placement should be under the A arm for the front tire
Why would you film yourself changing a tire if you don't know how to change a tire??
 
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De Blasio campaign event in Iowa draws roughly 15 attendees

Mayor Bill de Blasio pitched his presidential dreams to a crowd of about 15 likely Democratic voters at an event Sunday morning in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

With more than enough empty space to accommodate his 6-foot-5 frame, the quixotic candidate took the floor at Parlor City Pub to a smattering of applause from the sleepy brunch set.

“Everything should be about our families, our lives, what everyday people are going through, what working people are going through,” de Blasio told the crowd, which numbered around 15 — not counting the press corps, campaign staff and Iowa state Sen. Rob Hogg, the event organizer.
 
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