Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voodoo

[FluffyMcDeath]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

smithy is accosted by an armed assailant one night who then demands money. The man, he astutely estimates, is about 70kg. Ergo he is being confronted by a mass of merely 1.2 x 10^-23 that of earth. He is calmed by this, then he realizes that his luck is even greater because the only thing that he really need pay attention to is the bullet in the gun that's pointing at his heart. It weighs in at a little under 10 grams - why that's only 1.7 x 10 -27 or 1.7 x 10 -25 %

It is clear now that there is no conceivable danger because the mass of the apparent threat is far too puny.

Before he realizes that he might be looking at things the wrong way he is struck by lightning which you would have thought would have been safe, being virtually massless - but no!!!

--
Yes, it's more of a parody than a parable but I'm sure you see the point.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

smithy is accosted by an armed assailant one night who then demands money. The man, he astutely estimates, is about 70kg. Ergo he is being confronted by a mass of merely 1.2 x 10^-23 that of earth. He is calmed by this, then he realizes that his luck is even greater because the only thing that he really need pay attention to is the bullet in the gun that's pointing at his heart. It weighs in at a little under 10 grams - why that's only 1.7 x 10 -27 or 1.7 x 10 -25 %

It is clear now that there is no conceivable danger because the mass of the apparent threat is far too puny.

Before he realizes that he might be looking at things the wrong way he is struck by lightning which you would have thought would have been safe, being virtually massless - but no!!!

--
Yes, it's more of a parody than a parable but I'm sure you see the point.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

smithy is accosted by an armed assailant one night who then demands money. The man, he astutely estimates, is about 70kg. Ergo he is being confronted by a mass of merely 1.2 x 10^-23 that of earth. He is calmed by this, then he realizes that his luck is even greater because the only thing that he really need pay attention to is the bullet in the gun that's pointing at his heart. It weighs in at a little under 10 grams - why that's only 1.7 x 10 -27 or 1.7 x 10 -25 %

It is clear now that there is no conceivable danger because the mass of the apparent threat is far too puny.

Before he realizes that he might be looking at things the wrong way he is struck by lightning which you would have thought would have been safe, being virtually massless - but no!!!

--
Yes, it's more of a parody than a parable but I'm sure you see the point.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

smithy is accosted by an armed assailant one night who then demands money. The man, he astutely estimates, is about 70kg. Ergo he is being confronted by a mass of merely 1.2 x 10^-23 that of earth. He is calmed by this, then he realizes that his luck is even greater because the only thing that he really need pay attention to is the bullet in the gun that's pointing at his heart. It weighs in at a little under 10 grams - why that's only 1.7 x 10 -27 or 1.7 x 10 -25 %

It is clear now that there is no conceivable danger because the mass of the apparent threat is far too puny.

Before he realizes that he might be looking at things the wrong way he is struck by lightning which you would have thought would have been safe, being virtually massless - but no!!!

--
Yes, it's more of a parody than a parable but I'm sure you see the point.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

smithy is accosted by an armed assailant one night who then demands money. The man, he astutely estimates, is about 70kg. Ergo he is being confronted by a mass of merely 1.2 x 10^-23 that of earth. He is calmed by this, then he realizes that his luck is even greater because the only thing that he really need pay attention to is the bullet in the gun that's pointing at his heart. It weighs in at a little under 10 grams - why that's only 1.7 x 10 -27 or 1.7 x 10 -25 %

It is clear now that there is no conceivable danger because the mass of the apparent threat is far too puny.

Before he realizes that he might be looking at things the wrong way he is struck by lightning which you would have thought would have been safe, being virtually massless - but no!!!

--
Yes, it's more of a parody than a parable but I'm sure you see the point.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

smithy is accosted by an armed assailant one night who then demands money. The man, he astutely estimates, is about 70kg. Ergo he is being confronted by a mass of merely 1.2 x 10^-23 that of earth. He is calmed by this, then he realizes that his luck is even greater because the only thing that he really need pay attention to is the bullet in the gun that's pointing at his heart. It weighs in at a little under 10 grams - why that's only 1.7 x 10 -27 or 1.7 x 10 -25 %

It is clear now that there is no conceivable danger because the mass of the apparent threat is far too puny.

Before he realizes that he might be looking at things the wrong way he is struck by lightning which you would have thought would have been safe, being virtually massless - but no!!!

--
Yes, it's more of a parody than a parable but I'm sure you see the point.

 

[metalman]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

The last reversal of the earths magnetic field was 740,000 years ago.

NASA: The Sun's magnetic field does a flip

The Sun's Magnetic Cycle

NASA: first reversed polarity sunspot of new cycle spotted

NASA solar physicist David Hathaway has predicted very stormy sunspot activity for SC24 (30 - 50% stronger). The sun must not have read his paper, its been extremely quiet.

 

[metalman]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

The last reversal of the earths magnetic field was 740,000 years ago.

NASA: The Sun's magnetic field does a flip

The Sun's Magnetic Cycle

NASA: first reversed polarity sunspot of new cycle spotted

NASA solar physicist David Hathaway has predicted very stormy sunspot activity for SC24 (30 - 50% stronger). The sun must not have read his paper, its been extremely quiet.

 

[metalman]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

The last reversal of the earths magnetic field was 740,000 years ago.

NASA: The Sun's magnetic field does a flip

The Sun's Magnetic Cycle

NASA: first reversed polarity sunspot of new cycle spotted

NASA solar physicist David Hathaway has predicted very stormy sunspot activity for SC24 (30 - 50% stronger). The sun must not have read his paper, its been extremely quiet.

 

[metalman]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

The last reversal of the earths magnetic field was 740,000 years ago.

NASA: The Sun's magnetic field does a flip

The Sun's Magnetic Cycle

NASA: first reversed polarity sunspot of new cycle spotted

NASA solar physicist David Hathaway has predicted very stormy sunspot activity for SC24 (30 - 50% stronger). The sun must not have read his paper, its been extremely quiet.

 

[metalman]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

The last reversal of the earths magnetic field was 740,000 years ago.

NASA: The Sun's magnetic field does a flip

The Sun's Magnetic Cycle

NASA: first reversed polarity sunspot of new cycle spotted

NASA solar physicist David Hathaway has predicted very stormy sunspot activity for SC24 (30 - 50% stronger). The sun must not have read his paper, its been extremely quiet.

 

[metalman]

The magnetic polarity of the sun reverses every 11 year cycle.

Okay. But the magentic change appears to have been on earth during this period. At least say some scientist's guesses -- they'll still researching this possibility.

???
Not sure what you mean by this. I know that the earths field flips from time to time but it's on the order of 3 to 4 hundred thousand years or so, not like the sun's 11.

But the sunspot cycle is important though it doesn't necessarily dominate. Through the 70's and 80's when the cycle was high we still cooled a little and solar energy reaching the ground was actually lower than it should have been because of particulates especially sulphur particulates (from human activity - related to acid rain, also definitely shown to be mostly human). Since these were cleaned up we've been receiving more energy at the ground despite the falling sunspot activity. Lots of variables in this equation, and it's non-linear.

The last reversal of the earths magnetic field was 740,000 years ago.

NASA: The Sun's magnetic field does a flip

The Sun's Magnetic Cycle

NASA: first reversed polarity sunspot of new cycle spotted

NASA solar physicist David Hathaway has predicted very stormy sunspot activity for SC24 (30 - 50% stronger). The sun must not have read his paper, its been extremely quiet.

 

[faethor]

The arctic is an island. LINK

The North Pole has become an island for the first time in human history as climate change has made it possible to circumnavigate the Arctic ice cap.

They agree the computer models are WRONG!
"The rate of change is clearly faster than nearly all the models predict, which has huge implications for climate change and how to tackle it."
-- Oops but wrong in the opposite way the anti-GW crowd claims.

 

[faethor]

The arctic is an island. LINK

The North Pole has become an island for the first time in human history as climate change has made it possible to circumnavigate the Arctic ice cap.

They agree the computer models are WRONG!
"The rate of change is clearly faster than nearly all the models predict, which has huge implications for climate change and how to tackle it."
-- Oops but wrong in the opposite way the anti-GW crowd claims.