Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voodoo

[faethor]

Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

There is a lot of evidence to the existence of BigFoot, DNA being the icing on the cake. Don't be a flat earther

Bigfoot is a hoax.

Consider the requirements of a Large mammal:

In Red's related news over 100K Gorillas were recently found. LINK

There would be scat evidence of Bigfoots existance.

Silly Metalman everyone knows manticores survive on a diet of Bigfoot scat. So clearly there's be no scat. :roll:

 

[faethor]

Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

There is a lot of evidence to the existence of BigFoot, DNA being the icing on the cake. Don't be a flat earther

Bigfoot is a hoax.

Consider the requirements of a Large mammal:

In Red's related news over 100K Gorillas were recently found. LINK

There would be scat evidence of Bigfoots existance.

Silly Metalman everyone knows manticores survive on a diet of Bigfoot scat. So clearly there's be no scat. :roll:

 

[faethor]

Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

There is a lot of evidence to the existence of BigFoot, DNA being the icing on the cake. Don't be a flat earther

Bigfoot is a hoax.

Consider the requirements of a Large mammal:

In Red's related news over 100K Gorillas were recently found. LINK

There would be scat evidence of Bigfoots existance.

Silly Metalman everyone knows manticores survive on a diet of Bigfoot scat. So clearly there's be no scat. :roll:

 

[faethor]

Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

There is a lot of evidence to the existence of BigFoot, DNA being the icing on the cake. Don't be a flat earther

Bigfoot is a hoax.

Consider the requirements of a Large mammal:

In Red's related news over 100K Gorillas were recently found. LINK

There would be scat evidence of Bigfoots existance.

Silly Metalman everyone knows manticores survive on a diet of Bigfoot scat. So clearly there's be no scat. :roll:

 

[smithy]

One side has such an self-inflated image of their own power they believe they can change the weather.

Easter Island was forested when humans arrived there. It isn't now. If the population had stayed low it'd probably be so still. It's all about numbers.

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

 

[smithy]

One side has such an self-inflated image of their own power they believe they can change the weather.

Easter Island was forested when humans arrived there. It isn't now. If the population had stayed low it'd probably be so still. It's all about numbers.

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

 

[smithy]

One side has such an self-inflated image of their own power they believe they can change the weather.

Easter Island was forested when humans arrived there. It isn't now. If the population had stayed low it'd probably be so still. It's all about numbers.

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

 

[smithy]

One side has such an self-inflated image of their own power they believe they can change the weather.

Easter Island was forested when humans arrived there. It isn't now. If the population had stayed low it'd probably be so still. It's all about numbers.

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

 

[smithy]

One side has such an self-inflated image of their own power they believe they can change the weather.

Easter Island was forested when humans arrived there. It isn't now. If the population had stayed low it'd probably be so still. It's all about numbers.

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

 

[smithy]

One side has such an self-inflated image of their own power they believe they can change the weather.

Easter Island was forested when humans arrived there. It isn't now. If the population had stayed low it'd probably be so still. It's all about numbers.

Spot on it's the numbers, so let's consider some numbers:

Those 7 billion humans you mention, weigh on average, 70kg each. So that's 490 billion kg of human mass. Or 490,000,000 metric tonnes.

The Earth's mass is 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.
Earth's atmosphere has a mass of 5,148,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

 

[faethor]

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

Of course those humans consume well more then their weight in plantary resources. Americans use about 25 barrels of oil per person per year. ~8 barrels make 1 ton. So 3 tons of oil per year for a 70 year old this is 210 tons over a lifetime. Clearly this is too a minor amount of the mass of the planet. However, the rate of 8x10^-12% mass uses oil faster then the other 99.999999999992% can regenerate the material. So undoubtably such a small % does have an impact.

The question isn't that the earth won't exist. It clearly will. The question is what is this new changed state and how does the change in state impact the only body we know of where life exists.

 

[faethor]

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

Of course those humans consume well more then their weight in plantary resources. Americans use about 25 barrels of oil per person per year. ~8 barrels make 1 ton. So 3 tons of oil per year for a 70 year old this is 210 tons over a lifetime. Clearly this is too a minor amount of the mass of the planet. However, the rate of 8x10^-12% mass uses oil faster then the other 99.999999999992% can regenerate the material. So undoubtably such a small % does have an impact.

The question isn't that the earth won't exist. It clearly will. The question is what is this new changed state and how does the change in state impact the only body we know of where life exists.

 

[faethor]

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

Of course those humans consume well more then their weight in plantary resources. Americans use about 25 barrels of oil per person per year. ~8 barrels make 1 ton. So 3 tons of oil per year for a 70 year old this is 210 tons over a lifetime. Clearly this is too a minor amount of the mass of the planet. However, the rate of 8x10^-12% mass uses oil faster then the other 99.999999999992% can regenerate the material. So undoubtably such a small % does have an impact.

The question isn't that the earth won't exist. It clearly will. The question is what is this new changed state and how does the change in state impact the only body we know of where life exists.

 

[faethor]

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

Of course those humans consume well more then their weight in plantary resources. Americans use about 25 barrels of oil per person per year. ~8 barrels make 1 ton. So 3 tons of oil per year for a 70 year old this is 210 tons over a lifetime. Clearly this is too a minor amount of the mass of the planet. However, the rate of 8x10^-12% mass uses oil faster then the other 99.999999999992% can regenerate the material. So undoubtably such a small % does have an impact.

The question isn't that the earth won't exist. It clearly will. The question is what is this new changed state and how does the change in state impact the only body we know of where life exists.

 

[faethor]

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

Of course those humans consume well more then their weight in plantary resources. Americans use about 25 barrels of oil per person per year. ~8 barrels make 1 ton. So 3 tons of oil per year for a 70 year old this is 210 tons over a lifetime. Clearly this is too a minor amount of the mass of the planet. However, the rate of 8x10^-12% mass uses oil faster then the other 99.999999999992% can regenerate the material. So undoubtably such a small % does have an impact.

The question isn't that the earth won't exist. It clearly will. The question is what is this new changed state and how does the change in state impact the only body we know of where life exists.

 

[faethor]

That means humans, despite taking hundreds of years to shake all their hands, make up only 0.000000000008% of our planet. We are insignificant beyond belief. Religion, especially the Climate Change religion will try to convince you otherwise, but really we are about as significant than one grain of sand on Fraser Island's Ninety Mile Beach.

Of course those humans consume well more then their weight in plantary resources. Americans use about 25 barrels of oil per person per year. ~8 barrels make 1 ton. So 3 tons of oil per year for a 70 year old this is 210 tons over a lifetime. Clearly this is too a minor amount of the mass of the planet. However, the rate of 8x10^-12% mass uses oil faster then the other 99.999999999992% can regenerate the material. So undoubtably such a small % does have an impact.

The question isn't that the earth won't exist. It clearly will. The question is what is this new changed state and how does the change in state impact the only body we know of where life exists.

 

[metalman]

Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

We are currently languishing at a solar minimum. Solar output has fallen in each of the last 5 years. This is a normal part of the sunspot cycle. We SHOULD have been cooling for the last 5 years.

Unfortunately it seems that the new sunspot cycle isn't firing up very well and solar output may continue to sputter along at lower levels for some time.

If the cycle doesn't start up properly soon then we may have folks skating on the Thames again just like the Elizabethans did.

The Maunder Minimum of 1645-1715, coincided with the Little Ice Age.

as of August 28th, 2008, a total of 416 spotless days have occurred in the current minimum phase, and the 38th consecutive spotless day

If there is not a startup of sunspots in SC24 before 2009, comparisons to the Dalton minimum will become likely.

Based on the most recent data it looks like the Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) has dropped from solar cycle 23’s peak of 1367 w/m^2 to 1365 w/m^2 which is a drop of 2 watts/m^2 over the surface of the planet.

 

[metalman]

Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

We are currently languishing at a solar minimum. Solar output has fallen in each of the last 5 years. This is a normal part of the sunspot cycle. We SHOULD have been cooling for the last 5 years.

Unfortunately it seems that the new sunspot cycle isn't firing up very well and solar output may continue to sputter along at lower levels for some time.

If the cycle doesn't start up properly soon then we may have folks skating on the Thames again just like the Elizabethans did.

The Maunder Minimum of 1645-1715, coincided with the Little Ice Age.

as of August 28th, 2008, a total of 416 spotless days have occurred in the current minimum phase, and the 38th consecutive spotless day

If there is not a startup of sunspots in SC24 before 2009, comparisons to the Dalton minimum will become likely.

Based on the most recent data it looks like the Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) has dropped from solar cycle 23’s peak of 1367 w/m^2 to 1365 w/m^2 which is a drop of 2 watts/m^2 over the surface of the planet.

 

[metalman]

Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

We are currently languishing at a solar minimum. Solar output has fallen in each of the last 5 years. This is a normal part of the sunspot cycle. We SHOULD have been cooling for the last 5 years.

Unfortunately it seems that the new sunspot cycle isn't firing up very well and solar output may continue to sputter along at lower levels for some time.

If the cycle doesn't start up properly soon then we may have folks skating on the Thames again just like the Elizabethans did.

The Maunder Minimum of 1645-1715, coincided with the Little Ice Age.

as of August 28th, 2008, a total of 416 spotless days have occurred in the current minimum phase, and the 38th consecutive spotless day

If there is not a startup of sunspots in SC24 before 2009, comparisons to the Dalton minimum will become likely.

Based on the most recent data it looks like the Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) has dropped from solar cycle 23’s peak of 1367 w/m^2 to 1365 w/m^2 which is a drop of 2 watts/m^2 over the surface of the planet.

 

[metalman]

Re: Colder winter or warmer? fear mongers -vs- old timer voo

We are currently languishing at a solar minimum. Solar output has fallen in each of the last 5 years. This is a normal part of the sunspot cycle. We SHOULD have been cooling for the last 5 years.

Unfortunately it seems that the new sunspot cycle isn't firing up very well and solar output may continue to sputter along at lower levels for some time.

If the cycle doesn't start up properly soon then we may have folks skating on the Thames again just like the Elizabethans did.

The Maunder Minimum of 1645-1715, coincided with the Little Ice Age.

as of August 28th, 2008, a total of 416 spotless days have occurred in the current minimum phase, and the 38th consecutive spotless day

If there is not a startup of sunspots in SC24 before 2009, comparisons to the Dalton minimum will become likely.

Based on the most recent data it looks like the Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) has dropped from solar cycle 23’s peak of 1367 w/m^2 to 1365 w/m^2 which is a drop of 2 watts/m^2 over the surface of the planet.