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Joe Rogan Makes Last Minute Endorsement of Donald Trump​

https://twitter.com/x/status/1853614670764015762

In case the preview is broken. Elon did a nearly 3 hour Joe Rogan podcast, which Rogan tweeted out. In that Tweet Rogan officially endorsed Trump. The Liberal Media has been pretending Rogan's a dyed in the wool fringe right winger.

This is ignoring that in the 2020 election he was a Bernie Bro.
This is also ignoring that in the 2016 election he endorsed Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson.
Finally it is ignoring that as recently as earlier this year, he was stating to not be a fan of Trump.

As for Elon, AFAIK this is his very first presidential endorsement. I've heard part of this podcast and he makes some good but obvious points. If the unelected empty suit candidate who can't talk puppet Harris is elected, the country will go from a 2 party system to a 1 party system. That is obvious and I dare anyone here to dispute it. I've been banging that drum for how many years now? Shame people like Rogan and Musk are slow learners.
 
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cecilia said:

I've discussion on this on Threads and twitter.
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The Guardian have bailed from Twitter too but their explanation comes across as a bit sour grapesy to me. "Big bad Trump won so we're taking our ball and going home."
Is Twitter a far worse cesspit of bigotry now than it was before Musk took over? Without a doubt.
Is that, as they claim, why the Guardian left? Nah, otherwise they would have left months, if not years ago. They're full of bollox in my opinion.

I go on Threads from time to time but still use Twitter most days as, despite the crackpots and bigots, it works better for me.
Never tried Bluesky or Mastodon and they don't really appeal as they seem to positioning themselves as "safe spaces for the left". I have little to no interest in such ostensibly boring forums. I do, perhaps weirdly, have accounts on a few "right-wing" ones, notably Gab and Truth Social (although I think the big Wotsit has barred me from that last one, despite never having posted :D ). I haven't been on either for a while but the last time I looked, they were both crackpot echo-chambers, full of Q-pish, Jesus, chem-trails and racism, often all in the same post. Of course, there's plenty of that on Twitter too but at least on Twitter I can find mundane, normal posts of interest amongst to vitriol. The other thing about Twitter is that a lot of the lefty nutcases are still on there too. Some of them are almost as mental as the q-nutters.

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Well, that didn't take very long! :lol:
Directly after I wrote this, I went to desktop Twitter and have been logged out and can't log back in with my preferred browser. The home page is in a weird redirect loop. It was working fine about an hour ago so feck knows what he's done now. It still works on Chrome and my 'phone but if I can't use the desktop version on Brave maybe I'll bail too.
 
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cecilia said:

I've discussion on this on Threads and twitter.
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24 hrs later and Twitter is still not working on my preferred browser so, despite my previous disdainful comment, I signed up to Bluesky. What a snivelling hypocrite I am.
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On the bright side, Bluesky works fine on Brave desktop, whereas Twitter is still in a goosed infinite loop of data-slurping incompetence.
 
This could get interesting. Elon will be part of Trumps's new government efficiency department. Elon also heads Tesla.

Trump Gunning To Repeal Biden’s EV Tax Credit​

The EV tax credit benefits the sector of one of Trump’s biggest supporters, tech mogul Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla Motors, the largest electric vehicle manufacturer in the United States and the second largest globally. Musk has previously supported killing the tax credit, however, because as much as its recension would hurt Tesla, it would hurt Tesla’s competitors even more, according to the Tesla CEO.

“I think it would be devastating for our competitors and for Tesla slightly,” Musk said in a July earnings call, according to Business Insider. “But long term probably actually helps Tesla, would be my guess.”

Musk has called to scrap “all government subsidies, including those for EVs, oil and gas” and create a more competitive market with less government intervention.

Tesla is a premium brand, so it would hurt it less. My position from day one has been the government should NEVER subsidize private industry. Yes that includes farm subsidizes. Get rid of everything including most red tape. Let's have a free open market for the first time in how many decades?

Specifically related to EVs, the experiment has been a disaster and wasted countless billions of taxpayer money. Sales are collapsing for a good reason. All but the most religious supporters of EVs have gotten extremely quiet in the last couple years.
 
Robert said:
The Guardian have bailed from Twitter too but their explanation comes across as a bit sour grapesy to me
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maybe, but I just joined blue sky and it's ENTIRELY much nicer. Like 1000 % nicer.
Even when I'm talking to someone I disagree with, it's not a hate fest.

I've been on Threads for a while and it's also calmer.
 
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@redrumloa

EVs are actually fantastic but are often misunderstood like the Amiga was and is. They are taking over the auto industry but slower people resist change so it takes some time. Lots of new, exciting and interesting choices when you go electric. And great deals are available since it’s currently in fashion to sh*t talk EVs by some that don’t get the tech. The coming years and even now have great innovations in the electric car industry. I’ve been driving mostly EV since 2013 so I guess I’m a futurist at heart. It’s mostly old people that don’t understand electric cars, the young embrace it. Sometimes, technology moves forward one funeral at a time unfortunately. More choices than Tesla all the time as far as what to buy EV wise. Gas cars are boring and cause cancer and death just like cigarettes. People are free to buy whatever kind of transportation they want but like it or not EV will take over the auto industry. You can ignore that or take advantage of that, the choice is up to you.
 
I saw this, perhaps ironically, on Twitter. I don't know if there's some wishful thinking going on there but the first three screenshots provide an interesting observation that perhaps points to just how bad the bot problem Musk said he was going to solve has become under his watch. It's noticeably much worse now than when he took over but the numbers below are pretty wild.
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Robert said:
I saw this, perhaps ironically, on Twitter. I don't know if there's some wishful thinking going on there but the first three screenshots provide an interesting observation that perhaps points to just how bad the bot problem Musk said he was going to solve has become under his watch. It's noticeably much worse now than when he took over but the numbers below are pretty wild.
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I bet there's a bit of "little pond" going on. Like a ponzi, those in quickest tend to get the best payoff. Also higher discoverability and bringing followers from other platforms that a loyal followers. Older platforms have more cruft, dormant followers, etc. Bots are attracted to high volume sites. As volume goes up bots will follow. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Also, I understand that tictoc has/had good engagement but didn't that turn out to be artificial, purposefully for the dopamine? These days it wouldn't surprise me if platforms weren't leveraging AI followers to retain users and give them a warm feeling like they were being heard. Don't now if bluesky would do such a think to enhance retention and growth but I can't imagine that someone won't do it.
 
Robert said:
Musk said he was going to solve has become under his watch. It's noticeably much worse now than when he took over but the numbers below are pretty wild.
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Yeah I don't know about worse since he took over when it comes to bots, but I don't use it myself. That said, Twitter was notorious for being a haven for kiddie pr0n until Musk took over. Previous ownership would ban people for complaining about it. First thing Musk did was clean that up. Now all that kiddie pr0n is on Bluesky. From what I've heard, they are in no hurry to get rid of it.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Bots are attracted to high volume sites. As volume goes up bots will follow.
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Of course. However, in the case of Twitter he made a bit of a rod for his own back by claiming he'd get rid of them, only for the problem to get worse.
FluffyMcDeath said:
Enjoy it while it lasts.
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I'm not on it much so not a lot to enjoy. There's still too many self-congratulatory "Twitter sux" posts on it for me. I expect that will eventually settle down and then it might be a better forum. Until then, I'll probably dip in and out but despite Twitter now being inconvenient on desktop it's still the one I use most.
 
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redrumloa said:
Yeah I don't know about worse since he took over when it comes to bots, but I don't use it myself. That said, Twitter was notorious for being a haven for kiddie pr0n until Musk took over. Previous ownership would ban people for complaining about it. First thing Musk did was clean that up.
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I've encountered CSAM on Twitter only twice and both instances came after Musk took over, never before. The idea he cleaned it up is as fanciful as him clearing out the bots or believing in free speech absolutism. Almost every time he talks about Twitter he's either lying or just hopelessly misguided.
 
Robert said:
I saw this, perhaps ironically, on Twitter. I don't know if there's some wishful thinking going on there but the first three screenshots provide an interesting observation that perhaps points to just how bad the bot problem Musk said he was going to solve has become under his watch. It's noticeably much worse now than when he took over but the numbers below are pretty wild.
GcMywSDasAEN7_B
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maybe this is one reason BlueSky isn't a hell hole

 
Robert said:
But for how long? It's certainly attracting a lot of new, ehm, "libs"? ;)

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LOL, I haven't seen any of those. I looked for science topics, some people I was following on other sites and if there is anything about LEGO. so far not much on LEGO (sad), There are cat photos, however.
So far I have only seen good people willing to have conversations. No attacking, no weirdos.
and, if I ever DO see one, I will immediately block without discussion.
So far it really does feel like a breath of fresh air.
 
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