Has Q chucked it?

Seems like a few dim bulbs are starting to light up:
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Robert said:
Antifa weren't mentioned in the article.
But yeah, Proud Boys Good!
Coz Trump! (or something).
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Paramilitary is about organization, tactics and objectives. Antifa has all of those. Proud boys are more of a frat. Antifa also does property damage and arson.
 
Robert said:
Got another wacky email from Mr. Torba this morning, reminding me, "We are human beings made in the image of God" and "Jesus is King" and "“Religious + Practical Side Supporting Documents” contains all of the details giving both the religious reasons for why Christians cannot receive the Vaccine".
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Today's missive from "the only platform for free speech on the internet" is proudly proclaiming, "Gab doesn’t host the Taliban."
I'm glad I never unsubscribed as these emails are a hoot. I'm starting to think Torba works for The Onion.
 
Notwithstanding the fact the two situations are apples and oranges so not really comparable anyway, I still found this interesting:

Records rebut claims of unequal treatment of Jan. 6 rioters​

It’s a common refrain from some of those charged in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol and their Republican allies: The Justice Department is treating them harshly because of their political views while those arrested during last year’s protests over racial injustice were given leniency.
Court records tell a different story.
An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison.
 
Robert said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1433497571343880192
Of course he's only pleading guilty because the cabal have got to him, he was never really into Qanon, he was an antifa / false flag / plant, etc, etc.
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Plea agreement hearing. You get a lot of what's known as plea bargains in the US system. Trials are expensive for the government and very expensive for private citizens. The prosecutors will often pile on, sometimes rather spurious, very serious crimes and then offer to accept a guilty plea on one of the lighter charges in exchange for going easier on you in sentencing. All sorts of things are wrong with the idea that confessions of guilt are statements of truth.
It's a problem that's been looked at quite a lot, been around for a long time, but that many people benefit from so there's little appetite to fixing it (or admitting it).

abovethelaw.com

Innocent People Who Plead Guilty - Above the Law

Many innocent defendants plead guilty in part due to fear of what they call 'the trial penalty' -- that the punishment will be greater after trial.
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jessicahenryjustice.medium.com

When the Wrongly Convicted Plead Guilty for Freedom

Elvis Brooks spent forty-two years in a Louisiana prison — nearly two-thirds of his life — for a murder he always insisted he did not…
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www.nbcnews.com

Opinion | Prosecutors are packing prisons by coercing plea deals, and it's totally legal

American prosecutors are equipped with a fearsome array of tools they can and do use to discourage people from exercising their right to a jury trial.
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guiltypleaproblem.org

Why innocent people are pleading guilty

Get involved to fix America’s guilty plea problem.
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www.forbes.com

Are Innocent People Pleading Guilty? A New Report Says Yes

Are innocent people pleading guilty to crimes they did not commit? A new report from NACDL shows a troubling trend with plea agreements.
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and the less money you have to fight a court case, the more likely you are to take a deal - even if you know you didn't do the crime.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Plea agreement hearing. You get a lot of what's known as plea bargains in the US system. Trials are expensive for the government and very expensive for private citizens. The prosecutors will often pile on, sometimes rather spurious, very serious crimes and then offer to accept a guilty plea on one of the lighter charges in exchange for going easier on you in sentencing. All sorts of things are wrong with the idea that confessions of guilt are statements of truth.
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Yes, all of that is incredibly well known - famous even - but also a red herring.
Unless your argument is that no-one who ever pleads guilty in the US is actually guilty, it has no specific relevance to the Q Shaman's guilt, innocence or, as was initially claimed and still believed by some, part in an Antifa, false-flag operation. Nor, indeed, whether the deep state/cabal/party (delete to taste) have got at him ways slightly more exotic than exactly the same dodgy legal system every other defendant has to face.
 
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Robert said:
but also a red herring
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The fact that the violence at the Capitol on the 6th was recorded by the terrorists themselves as well as whatever media were around makes it difficult for anyone to claim "innocence".
As to Chansley: he doesn't appear to have engaged in any violence, just basically entering the building when he shouldn't have, which is still illegal and wanting to stop Congressional business ("Stop the Steal" nonsense).

Things will get interesting when the cases get to those who did commit violence and who encouraged them to that violence.
 
cecilia said:
As to Chansley: he doesn't appear to have engaged in any violence, just basically entering the building when he shouldn't have, which is still illegal and wanting to stop Congressional business ("Stop the Steal" nonsense).
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Indeed, I knew of him for quite some time before January 6th and have always viewed him as pretty harmless, albeit absolutely bat-kiech crazy.
 
Robert said:
Yes, all of that is incredibly well known - famous even - but also a red herring.
Unless your argument is that no-one who ever pleads guilty in the US is actually guilty, it has no specific relevance to the Q Shaman's guilt, innocence or, as was initially claimed and still believed by some, part in an Antifa, false-flag operation. Nor, indeed, whether the deep state/cabal/party (delete to taste) have got at him ways slightly more exotic than exactly the same dodgy legal system every other defendant has to face.
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Robert said:
Of course he's only pleading guilty because the cabal have got to him
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Robert said:
Whoosh!
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Let me double check then.
You were being ironic with "Of course he's only pleading guilty because the cabal have got to him..." and your implication was that, of course, there is no such reason he would be pleading guilty since there is no cabal, and therefore, excluding the ironically proposed "cabal" hypothesis the only other reason he would be pleading guilty is because he believes himself to be guilty.
I say - non sequitor - so what did I miss?
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Let me double check then.
You were being ironic with "Of course he's only pleading guilty because the cabal have got to him..." and your implication was that, of course, there is no such reason he would be pleading guilty ...
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No, the intended implication was that some Qanon followers were saying he's only pleading guilty because the cabal got to him.
I thought this was pretty obvious from the rest of the sentence, "he was never really into Qanon, he was an antifa / false flag / plant, etc," but apparently not obvious enough.
 
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