Obama will unilaterally attack Syria Thursday

Kucinic seems to get much better treatment from Fox now that he's criticizing a Democrat president.
 
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Senator John McCain plays poker on his IPhone during a U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing where Secretary of State JohnKerry, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey testify concerning the use of force in Syria, on Capitol Hill in Washington DC, Tuesday, September 3, 2013. (Photo by Melina Mara/The Washington Post)


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ates/?id=ed01ca14-222b-4a23-b12c-c0b0d9d4fe0a

Update 6:38 p.m.: After the photo made the rounds on Twitter, McCain tweeted the following in response:

Scandal! Caught playing iPhone game at 3+ hour Senate hearing - worst of all I lost!

:finger: wowzers!! you're a dick!!
 
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When Liberals Enable Tyrants

I have to say I'm rather disgusted with all the so-called liberals who are so eager to enable the most non liberal.

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Glaucus said:
When Liberals Enable Tyrants

I have to say I'm rather disgusted with all the so-called liberals who are so eager to enable the most non liberal.

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eh... ur kinda quibbling over the possession of the tyrants... are they mcains tyrants? the ones you see slaughtering people, or assads tyrants? you know the ones you see slaughtering people...
 
Glaucus said:
When Liberals Enable Tyrants

I have to say I'm rather disgusted with all the so-called liberals who are so eager to enable the most non liberal.
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Liberals enable Tyrants by not standing up to them but you have to stand up to your own tyrants first. There is a hegemonic financial/military regime that is running roughshod over the planet at the moment (using noble excuses as all Empires have done) and that is first on my list for standing up to. What Assad has done to the Syrians is nothing compared to what Saudi Arabia has done. I'd put toppling the House of Saud ahead of Assad. Assad is Hitler today because America needs him out of the way if they want to dominate the middle east.

Everything about how mean Assad is may be true, just as with Saddam, but the chaos that we put those people through is far worse. In Syria 5000 people a month die from the "unrest" and they are in an active civil war. In Iraq it's only a fifth of that and Iraq was liberated over a decade ago.

There is a western tyranny, but we mostly don't see it (because they turn the cameras away) and the worst excesses tend to happen to people far away. Going to war for peace is part of tyranny. When we don't like your government (even if it was one you voted for) we get rid of it. The reason we change the governments of other countries has NOTHING to do with how well they treat their people. It is ALL about how well they treat our corporations. Maybe a better title would be "When liberals abandon their core principles because of propaganda bullshit".
 
This journalist may spend his last days in a 6x4 cell in Libya or Iraq with electricity coursing through his genitals ... but it was worth it!
 
I'm going to lift liberally from this page:

According to the doctored report, the chemical attack was carried out by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of the Syrian Army, an elite unit commanded by Maher al-Assad, the president’s brother.

However, the original communication intercepted by Unit 8200 between a major in command of the rocket troops assigned to the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division, and the general staff, shows just the opposite.

The general staff officer asked the major if he was responsible for the chemical weapons attack. From the tone of the conversation, it was clear that “the Syrian general staff were out of their minds with panic that an unauthorized strike had been launched by the 155th Brigade in express defiance of their instructions,” the former officers say.

According to the transcript of the original Unit 8200 report, the major “hotly denied firing any of his missiles” and invited the general staff to come and verify that all his weapons were present.

The report contains a note at the end that the major was interrogated by Syrian intelligence for three days, then returned to command of his unit. “All of his weapons were accounted for,” the report stated.
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There is a growing body of evidence from numerous sources in the Middle East — mostly affiliated with the Syrian opposition and its supporters — providing a strong circumstantial case that the August 21 chemical incident was a pre-planned provocation by the Syrian opposition and its Saudi and Turkish supporters. The aim is reported to have been to create the kind of incident that would bring the United States into the war.
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The letter from the CIA veterans is here.
 
Okay, now this gets interesting. Obama claimed only the first group of 50 were entering, while Le Figaro claimed there were two groups, with the first one being 300 and the second one not specified by size. Further, note the dates and location: they entered on August 17 and 19 and they passed through Ghouta. The large number of deaths from a suspected chemical warfare agent occurred on August 21 in Ghouta. In fact, the second paragraph of the Jerusalem Post article notes:
Le Figaro reported that this is the reason behind the Assad regime’s alleged chemical weapons attack in Damascus on Wednesday morning, as UN inspectors were allowed into the country to investigate allegations of WMD use.​
Were these first groups of CIA-trained death squad members the target of the attack? Or could it be even worse than that? Vladimir Putin had some very interesting things to say in a wide-ranging interview today, but this bit stands out in relation to the death squad story:
“If it is determined that these rebels used weapons of mass destruction, what will the United States do with the rebels?” Mr. Putin asked. “What will the sponsors of the rebels do? Stop the supply of arms? Will they start fighting against the rebels?”​
Whether they were the targets of an attack by Assad’s forces or whether they were the agents carrying out a false flag attack, US-trained death squads could well be at the center of the disputed use of chemical weapons. That would seem to be both a strong incentive and a huge tell for Obama to change both the date and the size of the entry of the first of these agents trained by the US. After all, even while reporting Obama’s leak to McCain and Graham on Monday, the New York Times noted that the training program is covert.
Except that it’s not just the US training them. Going back to the Jerusalem Post article:
The rebels were trained for several months in a training camp on the Jordanian-Syrian border by CIA operatives, as well as Jordanian and Israeli commandos, the paper said.​
Oh my. That’s quite the international faculty for this training program. What new wonders await us as more graduates of the program pour into Syria?
- See more at: http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/09/0...h-squads-to-enter-syria/#sthash.gB4JTBhL.dpuf

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