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I gave Obama at least a year, I think, before giving up on him.
I think I was about the same.
I was aware that Obama was beholden to certain groups well before he was elected but naively thought he would fight against that and still had quite high hopes for him.
It was quite the disappointment to gradually realise he was a lying, murdering bastard.
On the other hand, I was never with Trump in order to give up on him.
I've thought him a boorish, lying arsehole for at least a decade, probably two, so he wasn't off to a good start.
Even if that had not been the case, publicly calling for the murder of terrorists' families would've sealed the deal over a year ago.
And even if that had not been the case, sending Spicer out to so blatantly lie in order to drum up support for attacking Iran would've done it.
And that's without even going into a whole host of other reasons, some documented in this thread, some not.