Ready for the next Ice Age? Winter is coming.

FluffyMcDeath said:
I tried to follow along with Michael and it was pretty destructive, but there wasn't much talk of it in the media I follow because ... Trump was meeting with Kanye.
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It was a pretty standard hurricane. The Florida panhandle got hit pretty hard.
 
redrumloa said:
It was a pretty standard hurricane. The Florida panhandle got hit pretty hard.
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I have Canadian* relatives staying with me just now who spend the first four months of every year in Panama city. Their property apparently had a lucky escape.

*When I say Canadian, I mean Scots who have lived there for 40-odd years.
 
Robert said:
I have Canadian* relatives staying with me just now who spend the first four months of every year in Panama city. Their property apparently had a lucky escape.

*When I say Canadian, I mean Scots who have lived there for 40-odd years.
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I'm glad their property escaped damage.I was a bit worried about this one. My folks and my sister live in Crystal River, which is west coast around the center of the state. My father is the (soon retiring) mayor. All of the west coast (Gulf coast) Florida counties are very vulnerable for a number of reasons. The gulf is shallow near the coast which exasperates storm surge. Florida is almost completely flat, but especially the center west coast and Crystal River is among the lowest in elevation. It's average elevation is only 4 feet above sea level. Some zones much lower. If this storm turned a little more east, things could have been much worse. Citrus County and Crystal River in particular were probably the most vulnerable in the area. My father got a call from the governor about the mandatory evacuations and contingencies should there be mass flooding. Luckily Crystal River was relatively unscathed.

We could argue whether such low elevations near the coast should be inhabited or not, but honestly there is probably nowhere on the planet free from the possibility of natural disasters. Hurricanes have been in an upswing for the last 15 years, but appear to be on the downside of the upswing. Activity goes in cycles. The most active hurricane season on record is actually the 1933 season. What's amazing about that is this is prior to satellites and even prior to radar. There were likely many more storms that were not documented.

Here's hoping we go through another down cycle here soon.
 
Is this climate related?
The video is deliberately histrionic but poking around the studies exist and the numbers are worthy of alarm.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Is this climate related?
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Difficult to say either way but I don't think anyone would be astonished if it turns out to be the case.
The video is deliberately histrionic but poking around the studies exist and the numbers are worthy of alarm.
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Yes, I've seen some reports of plummeting insect numbers over the last few years, particularly honey bees.
 
Back in the 2011 time frame we had Snowmageddon. Even down here in South Florida we were having historic or near historic low temps. There are signs this winter may be worse.

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Early blizzard: Thick snowfall blankets southwest Alberta

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redrumloa said:
Back in the 2011 time frame we had Snowmageddon. Even down here in South Florida we were having historic or near historic low temps. There are signs this winter may be worse.
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And where did all that cold come from?
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Yes... and? Anchorage is in Alaska, right?
About 5 degrees south of the Arctic circle. First snowfall usually happens in October.
Early blizzard: Thick snowfall blankets southwest Alberta

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Calgary has always had funny weather. They get the Chinooks too.

Anyway, climate change will probably come like that moment when the the 80 candles on grandma's cake turn from 80 flames into one big one and someone tries to swat it out with a napkin and burning wax goes everywhere and then the curtains catch. It starts slowly at first but moves very quickly through the "I think we should do something about this" to completely losing control or the possibility of control.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
Yes... and? Anchorage is in Alaska, right?
About 5 degrees south of the Arctic circle. First snowfall usually happens in October.
Calgary has always had funny weather. They get the Chinooks too.
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Yeah, those reports look pretty conservative for the end of October. Quite frankly, it's probably a pretty late start, if this is their first snowfall for the season. Calgary sometimes gets snow as early as late August. They typically have as much as 1.5 inches in September, and around 4 inches in October.
https://www.currentresults.com/Weat...nowfall-totals-snow-accumulation-averages.php
In other news, Anchorage and Calgary are supposed to be f***in' cold. They give the rest of us northerners something to look at and say "well, at least my ass isn't that frozen." That's the natural way of things. :D
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
.. climate change will probably come like that moment when the the 80 candles on grandma's cake turn from 80 flames into one big one and someone tries to swat it out with a napkin and burning wax goes everywhere and then the curtains catch. It starts slowly at first but moves very quickly through the "I think we should do something about this" to completely losing control or the possibility of control.
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There's a non-trivial chance that we're already past the point of your metaphorical napkin.
 
This is a first: my home town and climate change in the same headline on the front of a UK national newspaper.
Haven't had time to check the research so it might be a lot of bollox but it certainly raised an eyebrow.
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Glasgow's major roads, railways and hospitals at risk from climate change – study
Exclusive: Storms, flooding and heatwaves could severely impact the city by 2050, an in-depth study reveals
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Up to 1.8 million people in the Glasgow area could be affected by regular heatwaves and heavy winter flooding in future, according to the study.

Vital roads, bridges, rail lines and hospitals in the Glasgow area are at significant risk of being damaged or closed by climate change, a major study has found.

The study, thought to be the most in-depth carried out for any city region in the UK, said that by 2050 the area will be hit by far more powerful storms, by regular heatwaves and by heavy winter flooding, affecting up to 1.8 million people.
 
Robert said:
This is a first: my home town and climate change in the same headline on the front of a UK national newspaper.
Haven't had time to check the research so it might be a lot of bollox but it certainly raised an eyebrow.
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Glasgow's major roads, railways and hospitals at risk from climate change – study
Exclusive: Storms, flooding and heatwaves could severely impact the city by 2050, an in-depth study reveals
Severin Carrell Scotland editor
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Up to 1.8 million people in the Glasgow area could be affected by regular heatwaves and heavy winter flooding in future, according to the study.

Vital roads, bridges, rail lines and hospitals in the Glasgow area are at significant risk of being damaged or closed by climate change, a major study has found.

The study, thought to be the most in-depth carried out for any city region in the UK, said that by 2050 the area will be hit by far more powerful storms, by regular heatwaves and by heavy winter flooding, affecting up to 1.8 million people.
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Hopefully we're both alive in 2050 so I can post a good Nelson meme.

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I wouldn't worry so much. The oceans were supposed to have boiled away already, and that didn't happen.
 
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