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[faethor]

In fact, only humans are religious. We are the only animals that organize groups based on philosophies.

It appears that Neantherals had a sort of personal belief system if not semi-organized religious activity as attested by their burials. So if hominds on this planet are what you mean by humans and not the narrow homo sapiens on this planet category then yes that's correct.

Furthermore we are the only creatures that anthropomorphize. No other creature imagines other creatures or inanimate objects or natural phenomena are in the least human-like.

Certainly they do. Dogs think -- isn't it great this god (that's me) provides for my lowly self daily - thank you god. Cats likely think -- isn't it great this being (that's me) tithes to my Godness by giving me food daily - thanks for the offering be back tomorrow at promptly the same time.


Some of the problem on understanding animlas comes from the inability we currenty have for cross species communication. For example, Dolphins seem to learn some humanese but humans are just barely understanding dolphinese. For example we know Dolphins have names to identify themselves from one another. This appears to be some sort of identy system at work -- something a century ago scientists would have poopooed. Animals do have ritualistic behavior but it's difficult to ask them why and ascern their true thoughts on the subject. It may well be there is some sort of rudimentary faith system at work in certain aspects. Now this isn't to say I think animals have a religion. It's just interesting to think about what the elephant would say while they cry and bury their dead, for example. Do they inwardly curse an elephant headed god? An extension of this was possed by Wittgenstein is communication necessary for one to hold a religious theory or belief?

 

[faethor]

In fact, only humans are religious. We are the only animals that organize groups based on philosophies.

It appears that Neantherals had a sort of personal belief system if not semi-organized religious activity as attested by their burials. So if hominds on this planet are what you mean by humans and not the narrow homo sapiens on this planet category then yes that's correct.

Furthermore we are the only creatures that anthropomorphize. No other creature imagines other creatures or inanimate objects or natural phenomena are in the least human-like.

Certainly they do. Dogs think -- isn't it great this god (that's me) provides for my lowly self daily - thank you god. Cats likely think -- isn't it great this being (that's me) tithes to my Godness by giving me food daily - thanks for the offering be back tomorrow at promptly the same time.


Some of the problem on understanding animlas comes from the inability we currenty have for cross species communication. For example, Dolphins seem to learn some humanese but humans are just barely understanding dolphinese. For example we know Dolphins have names to identify themselves from one another. This appears to be some sort of identy system at work -- something a century ago scientists would have poopooed. Animals do have ritualistic behavior but it's difficult to ask them why and ascern their true thoughts on the subject. It may well be there is some sort of rudimentary faith system at work in certain aspects. Now this isn't to say I think animals have a religion. It's just interesting to think about what the elephant would say while they cry and bury their dead, for example. Do they inwardly curse an elephant headed god? An extension of this was possed by Wittgenstein is communication necessary for one to hold a religious theory or belief?

 

[faethor]

In fact, only humans are religious. We are the only animals that organize groups based on philosophies.

It appears that Neantherals had a sort of personal belief system if not semi-organized religious activity as attested by their burials. So if hominds on this planet are what you mean by humans and not the narrow homo sapiens on this planet category then yes that's correct.

Furthermore we are the only creatures that anthropomorphize. No other creature imagines other creatures or inanimate objects or natural phenomena are in the least human-like.

Certainly they do. Dogs think -- isn't it great this god (that's me) provides for my lowly self daily - thank you god. Cats likely think -- isn't it great this being (that's me) tithes to my Godness by giving me food daily - thanks for the offering be back tomorrow at promptly the same time.


Some of the problem on understanding animlas comes from the inability we currenty have for cross species communication. For example, Dolphins seem to learn some humanese but humans are just barely understanding dolphinese. For example we know Dolphins have names to identify themselves from one another. This appears to be some sort of identy system at work -- something a century ago scientists would have poopooed. Animals do have ritualistic behavior but it's difficult to ask them why and ascern their true thoughts on the subject. It may well be there is some sort of rudimentary faith system at work in certain aspects. Now this isn't to say I think animals have a religion. It's just interesting to think about what the elephant would say while they cry and bury their dead, for example. Do they inwardly curse an elephant headed god? An extension of this was possed by Wittgenstein is communication necessary for one to hold a religious theory or belief?

 

[faethor]

In fact, only humans are religious. We are the only animals that organize groups based on philosophies.

It appears that Neantherals had a sort of personal belief system if not semi-organized religious activity as attested by their burials. So if hominds on this planet are what you mean by humans and not the narrow homo sapiens on this planet category then yes that's correct.

Furthermore we are the only creatures that anthropomorphize. No other creature imagines other creatures or inanimate objects or natural phenomena are in the least human-like.

Certainly they do. Dogs think -- isn't it great this god (that's me) provides for my lowly self daily - thank you god. Cats likely think -- isn't it great this being (that's me) tithes to my Godness by giving me food daily - thanks for the offering be back tomorrow at promptly the same time.


Some of the problem on understanding animlas comes from the inability we currenty have for cross species communication. For example, Dolphins seem to learn some humanese but humans are just barely understanding dolphinese. For example we know Dolphins have names to identify themselves from one another. This appears to be some sort of identy system at work -- something a century ago scientists would have poopooed. Animals do have ritualistic behavior but it's difficult to ask them why and ascern their true thoughts on the subject. It may well be there is some sort of rudimentary faith system at work in certain aspects. Now this isn't to say I think animals have a religion. It's just interesting to think about what the elephant would say while they cry and bury their dead, for example. Do they inwardly curse an elephant headed god? An extension of this was possed by Wittgenstein is communication necessary for one to hold a religious theory or belief?

 

[Glaucus]

Do they inwardly curse an elephant headed god?

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

- Mike

 

[Glaucus]

Do they inwardly curse an elephant headed god?

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

- Mike

 

[Glaucus]

Do they inwardly curse an elephant headed god?

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

- Mike

 

[Glaucus]

Do they inwardly curse an elephant headed god?

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

- Mike

 

[Glaucus]

Do they inwardly curse an elephant headed god?

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

- Mike

 

[Glaucus]

Do they inwardly curse an elephant headed god?

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

- Mike

 

[faethor]

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

:roflmao:
May not be donkeys but it's always someone else.

 

[faethor]

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

:roflmao:
May not be donkeys but it's always someone else.

 

[faethor]

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

:roflmao:
May not be donkeys but it's always someone else.

 

[faethor]

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

:roflmao:
May not be donkeys but it's always someone else.

 

[faethor]

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

:roflmao:
May not be donkeys but it's always someone else.

 

[faethor]

I thought all elephants blamed donkeys for their problems! ;-)

:roflmao:
May not be donkeys but it's always someone else.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Furthermore we are the only creatures that anthropomorphize. No other creature imagines other creatures or inanimate objects or natural phenomena are in the least human-like.

Certainly they do. Dogs think -- isn't it great this god (that's me) provides for my lowly self daily - thank you god. Cats likely think -- isn't it great this being (that's me) tithes to my Godness by giving me food daily - thanks for the offering be back tomorrow at promptly the same time.

I was consciously and deliberately cheating when I referred to anthropomorphism.

But beyond that, I don't imagine that other animals would view the universe in quite the same way, though I cannot say how they would see it. A dog likely views its humans as its pack and the food bringing behaviour of the humans as the food bringing behaviour of canine parents.

Humans are special in their level of political socialisation. That it to say that they practice a highly complex verbal negotiation of the social hierarchy. They petition their "superiors" and are petitioned by their "inferiors". They make deals and bargains, they plead and they are aware of and attempt to manipulate the emotional states of others.

In a ferocious storm they may feel fear as other animals do but, interpreting the storm as the sky's anger may try to plead with the sky, as why, ask for forgiveness, etc. Animistic beliefs anthropomorphise everything such that trees have spirits, rocks have spirits, rivers, the sky, the sun, etc and each can be appealed to in the same way as humans can be. Modern monotheism is virtually the same except with only one grand god instead of the many spirits.

In a way, the uber god is a surrogate parent in that, as children we are dependent on our parents and it is a child's instinct to try to please the parent and fear their anger. There is also much comfort from the protection and sustenance that comes from the parent. Once we outgrow our parents or when they die we become exposed to the world as it is and have to provide for our own protection and sustenance. It is understandable that the instinct of the child is not erased simply by adulthood (and in fact, socialise humans are to a certain extent infantilised by that socialisation). So an adult will look for a surrogate parent, someone to replace the human parents that he is now equal to or has outlived to recapture that feeling of being cared for and looked after even though he will have to deal with the anguish of that parents disappointment and anger from time to time. God provides that parent and the metaphor is actively promoted in religious thought. When things go wrong, the act of pleading with the "parent" gives us a sense of useful action where in reality any useful action may be impossible. Even atheists partake in these sorts of self comforting rituals even though they don't believe that there is a god that will answer. The instinct to treat all problems as if they are human political/interpersonal problems is very powerful.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Furthermore we are the only creatures that anthropomorphize. No other creature imagines other creatures or inanimate objects or natural phenomena are in the least human-like.

Certainly they do. Dogs think -- isn't it great this god (that's me) provides for my lowly self daily - thank you god. Cats likely think -- isn't it great this being (that's me) tithes to my Godness by giving me food daily - thanks for the offering be back tomorrow at promptly the same time.

I was consciously and deliberately cheating when I referred to anthropomorphism.

But beyond that, I don't imagine that other animals would view the universe in quite the same way, though I cannot say how they would see it. A dog likely views its humans as its pack and the food bringing behaviour of the humans as the food bringing behaviour of canine parents.

Humans are special in their level of political socialisation. That it to say that they practice a highly complex verbal negotiation of the social hierarchy. They petition their "superiors" and are petitioned by their "inferiors". They make deals and bargains, they plead and they are aware of and attempt to manipulate the emotional states of others.

In a ferocious storm they may feel fear as other animals do but, interpreting the storm as the sky's anger may try to plead with the sky, as why, ask for forgiveness, etc. Animistic beliefs anthropomorphise everything such that trees have spirits, rocks have spirits, rivers, the sky, the sun, etc and each can be appealed to in the same way as humans can be. Modern monotheism is virtually the same except with only one grand god instead of the many spirits.

In a way, the uber god is a surrogate parent in that, as children we are dependent on our parents and it is a child's instinct to try to please the parent and fear their anger. There is also much comfort from the protection and sustenance that comes from the parent. Once we outgrow our parents or when they die we become exposed to the world as it is and have to provide for our own protection and sustenance. It is understandable that the instinct of the child is not erased simply by adulthood (and in fact, socialise humans are to a certain extent infantilised by that socialisation). So an adult will look for a surrogate parent, someone to replace the human parents that he is now equal to or has outlived to recapture that feeling of being cared for and looked after even though he will have to deal with the anguish of that parents disappointment and anger from time to time. God provides that parent and the metaphor is actively promoted in religious thought. When things go wrong, the act of pleading with the "parent" gives us a sense of useful action where in reality any useful action may be impossible. Even atheists partake in these sorts of self comforting rituals even though they don't believe that there is a god that will answer. The instinct to treat all problems as if they are human political/interpersonal problems is very powerful.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Furthermore we are the only creatures that anthropomorphize. No other creature imagines other creatures or inanimate objects or natural phenomena are in the least human-like.

Certainly they do. Dogs think -- isn't it great this god (that's me) provides for my lowly self daily - thank you god. Cats likely think -- isn't it great this being (that's me) tithes to my Godness by giving me food daily - thanks for the offering be back tomorrow at promptly the same time.

I was consciously and deliberately cheating when I referred to anthropomorphism.

But beyond that, I don't imagine that other animals would view the universe in quite the same way, though I cannot say how they would see it. A dog likely views its humans as its pack and the food bringing behaviour of the humans as the food bringing behaviour of canine parents.

Humans are special in their level of political socialisation. That it to say that they practice a highly complex verbal negotiation of the social hierarchy. They petition their "superiors" and are petitioned by their "inferiors". They make deals and bargains, they plead and they are aware of and attempt to manipulate the emotional states of others.

In a ferocious storm they may feel fear as other animals do but, interpreting the storm as the sky's anger may try to plead with the sky, as why, ask for forgiveness, etc. Animistic beliefs anthropomorphise everything such that trees have spirits, rocks have spirits, rivers, the sky, the sun, etc and each can be appealed to in the same way as humans can be. Modern monotheism is virtually the same except with only one grand god instead of the many spirits.

In a way, the uber god is a surrogate parent in that, as children we are dependent on our parents and it is a child's instinct to try to please the parent and fear their anger. There is also much comfort from the protection and sustenance that comes from the parent. Once we outgrow our parents or when they die we become exposed to the world as it is and have to provide for our own protection and sustenance. It is understandable that the instinct of the child is not erased simply by adulthood (and in fact, socialise humans are to a certain extent infantilised by that socialisation). So an adult will look for a surrogate parent, someone to replace the human parents that he is now equal to or has outlived to recapture that feeling of being cared for and looked after even though he will have to deal with the anguish of that parents disappointment and anger from time to time. God provides that parent and the metaphor is actively promoted in religious thought. When things go wrong, the act of pleading with the "parent" gives us a sense of useful action where in reality any useful action may be impossible. Even atheists partake in these sorts of self comforting rituals even though they don't believe that there is a god that will answer. The instinct to treat all problems as if they are human political/interpersonal problems is very powerful.

 

[FluffyMcDeath]

Furthermore we are the only creatures that anthropomorphize. No other creature imagines other creatures or inanimate objects or natural phenomena are in the least human-like.

Certainly they do. Dogs think -- isn't it great this god (that's me) provides for my lowly self daily - thank you god. Cats likely think -- isn't it great this being (that's me) tithes to my Godness by giving me food daily - thanks for the offering be back tomorrow at promptly the same time.

I was consciously and deliberately cheating when I referred to anthropomorphism.

But beyond that, I don't imagine that other animals would view the universe in quite the same way, though I cannot say how they would see it. A dog likely views its humans as its pack and the food bringing behaviour of the humans as the food bringing behaviour of canine parents.

Humans are special in their level of political socialisation. That it to say that they practice a highly complex verbal negotiation of the social hierarchy. They petition their "superiors" and are petitioned by their "inferiors". They make deals and bargains, they plead and they are aware of and attempt to manipulate the emotional states of others.

In a ferocious storm they may feel fear as other animals do but, interpreting the storm as the sky's anger may try to plead with the sky, as why, ask for forgiveness, etc. Animistic beliefs anthropomorphise everything such that trees have spirits, rocks have spirits, rivers, the sky, the sun, etc and each can be appealed to in the same way as humans can be. Modern monotheism is virtually the same except with only one grand god instead of the many spirits.

In a way, the uber god is a surrogate parent in that, as children we are dependent on our parents and it is a child's instinct to try to please the parent and fear their anger. There is also much comfort from the protection and sustenance that comes from the parent. Once we outgrow our parents or when they die we become exposed to the world as it is and have to provide for our own protection and sustenance. It is understandable that the instinct of the child is not erased simply by adulthood (and in fact, socialise humans are to a certain extent infantilised by that socialisation). So an adult will look for a surrogate parent, someone to replace the human parents that he is now equal to or has outlived to recapture that feeling of being cared for and looked after even though he will have to deal with the anguish of that parents disappointment and anger from time to time. God provides that parent and the metaphor is actively promoted in religious thought. When things go wrong, the act of pleading with the "parent" gives us a sense of useful action where in reality any useful action may be impossible. Even atheists partake in these sorts of self comforting rituals even though they don't believe that there is a god that will answer. The instinct to treat all problems as if they are human political/interpersonal problems is very powerful.