Riot in London last night

Is it the first sign of the apocalypse when people are looting Lidl?
"It's not just youths, there was actually a family drove up in a car and filled up their boot with stuff from Lidl and drove off."
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

(for international readers, Lidl is a bargain supermarket.)
 
Robert said:
Is it the first sign of the apocalypse when people are looting Lidl?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

(for international readers, Lidl is a bargain supermarket.)
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Pass, but I figure by now Lidl are probably all that's left that hasn't been looted at this point, if you discount the Turkish kabab shop owners, who last night grouped up with the Kurdish shop owners and collectively pimp slapped the rioters dumb enough to try their luck.
 
I think the Brits need to take a few quick lessons from the Greek riots. After the 2008 Athens riots (which, ironically, were also sparked by a police shooting) the police formed a rapid riot response unit. Members of this unit ride around in motor cycles, two officers per bike, and they would drive their bikes straight into groups of rioters - often running over individuals. Ten or so bikes at a time, roughly 20 cops, suddenly appearing out of nowhere catches the rioters off guard - many of which having to deal with injuries sustained from a motorcycle smashing in to them - now have to deal with cops bashing them with batons. It turns out that rioters become amazing docile when their limbs are broken or blood is gushing out of their nose. Doesn't completely stop the riots but lots of fun to watch.
 
the_leander said:
Pass, but I figure by now Lidl are probably all that's left that hasn't been looted at this point,
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It's in Salford, right enough, so might not be quite as devastated.

if you discount the Turkish kabab shop owners, who last night grouped up with the Kurdish shop owners and collectively pimp slapped the rioters dumb enough to try their luck.
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More power to their slapping arms.

:whip:
 
Walking back through Manchester city centre on the way home from work today, there were many police evident, including the tactical aid guys. There seemed to be way more people milling around than usual, then I realised that several major bus routes into the city centre had been diverted leaving those there basically stranded. Seemed a bit of an own goal in a way.

I think there's been a bit of minor bother so far and some half-assed attempts at looting, but I can't see any lambent glow on the horizon or pillars of smoke, so I guess things aren't so bad.
 
Glaucus said:
It turns out that rioters become amazing docile when their limbs are broken or blood is gushing out of their nose. Doesn't completely stop the riots but lots of fun to watch.
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Or they become "mostly unarmed".
 
Ticket to Hull please:

3D home entertainment isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Once you get it all set up, you'll realise that you forgot to rob the glasses.
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I have just been arrested for torching the DFS shop in Croydon. It's not so bad, I have five years to pay the fine and I don't have to go to prison until 2013.
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Ironically, in exactly a year's time in London there will be hundreds of blacks running about trying to take either gold, silver or bronze and it will all be started with the single shot of a pistol.
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From Sickipedia, of course.
 
Lets face it, we all know I'm bound for the fiery lake, at this point it's just a question of how deep I can dive into it.

Hundreds of young teens densely packed in the streets of London, causing chaos and destruction. Where's Anders Breivik when you need him?
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And another:

Say what you like about North Londoners, but their efforts in doing the place up in order to make the Man City & Man United fans feel at home for the Charity Shield match today is admirable.
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There is talk about putting the army on the streets which will make things pretty tricky if the kids then insist on throwing petrol bombs at heavily armed troops.
Wonder if the UN will ask for a No Fly zone if the troops fire on the protesters?

Darcus Howe has an opinion that the BBC doesn't want to hear but it sounds familiar to my ear. People ignore what is going on in the bottom end of society because they don't want to know and they have already condemn these people to be the bum boys of society and therefore assume they are rotten - and the pain and frustration is fertile ground for an explosion. As he said - it is the same force exactly that sparked Egypt and was touched off all around the world and that will continue to spread as the people are pushed further down by austerity and the increased security apparatus that is required to keep people humble during the austerity. As austerity bites elsewhere you will see it too. When people lose everything, they lose it.

The Guardian (however you feel about it) tries to present some context.

When you look at the figures for deaths in police custody (at least 333 since 1998 and not a single conviction of any police officer for any of them), then the IPCC and the courts are seen by many, quite reasonably, to be protecting the police rather than the people.
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And this is not an uncommon feeling around the world and it is growing. The police are not our friends. They work for the bankers and the people at the top and will crush any dissenting opinion with batons and shields.
 
FluffyMcDeath said:
There is talk about putting the army on the streets which will make things pretty tricky if the kids then insist on throwing petrol bombs at heavily armed troops.
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Won't happen for a couple of reasons: 1, It'd be political suicide. 2, We haven't enough troops in the entire country atm to make much if any impact. 3, Given that the police have been denied even the use of water canons, what makes you think they'd have the stomach for anything harder?

FluffyMcDeath said:
Darcus Howe has an opinion that the BBC doesn't want to hear but it sounds familiar to my ear. People ignore what is going on in the bottom end of society because they don't want to know and they have already condemn these people to be the bum boys of society and therefore assume they are rotten - and the pain and frustration is fertile ground for an explosion. As he said - it is the same force exactly that sparked Egypt and was touched off all around the world and that will continue to spread as the people are pushed further down by austerity and the increased security apparatus that is required to keep people humble during the austerity. As austerity bites elsewhere you will see it too. When people lose everything, they lose it.
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Given that I live right next door to a sink hole estate, that I have to guard properties against their denizens, I'm well aware of the people at the bottom.

And yes, there is a great deal that is rotten within the social underclass.

FluffyMcDeath said:
And this is not an uncommon feeling around the world and it is growing. The police are not our friends. They work for the bankers and the people at the top and will crush any dissenting opinion with batons and shields.
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The police aren't there to be your friend, they are there to uphold the law. If the people that make the law and who create the frameworks within which the police operate do so for their rich pals, in a democracy at least, who's fault is that?

Individuals do not take power, they are given it by the people. It may be given through fear or coercion or promises of wealth, but it is still given. Quite literally, the people get the government they deserve.
 
the_leander said:
The police aren't there to be your friend, they are there to uphold the law.
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Which is the crux of the problem, but people are not beholden to laws they cannot live with.
Individuals do not take power, they are given it by the people. It may be given through fear or coercion or promises of wealth, but it is still given. Quite literally, the people get the government they deserve.
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Or lies or the apathy or ignorance of the people. Unfortunately those lashing out now are likely ignorant and not guided by a coherent political philosophy - but revolutions start this way.
 
@Fluffy:

Good, old Darcus. :)
I had a laugh with one of my mates about Darcus' interview yesterday. He's always good value for this kind of stuff.
 
You local to any of this chaos, Alan? Or is that mate's pic?
 
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